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Johnston’s blunderbuss approach adds hugely to the tapestry of the sport, even if some his results do make me laugh out loud.
But as for the aspersions, he would need ten brains to set up tuppeny-h’apenny coups in an operation of such complexity.Well Hippo Joe, I couldn’t have written it better myself, you’ve hit the nail on the head.
Mark Johnston, for me, is misunderstood by punters especially those on Betfair who are bemused at the result of some of his horses but lets put things into perspective.
He’s a vet at heart so it’s understandable he likes to take a keen eye on the condition of his horses. What’s clear is his training regime, is the influenced by his veterinary background in what’s more militant philosophy by strength in numbers and lean logistics than analytic forecasting and long-term planning.
The simplistic approach to riding tactics epitomizes his subsidence from race-day analytic’s or other contentious involvements in favour of extreme attention to detail and hard work behind the scenes.
Often punters are mislead due to their analytical approach into studying the racecard but I couldn’t genuinely see Mark Johnston finding that knowledge or approach useful which means there’s a mismatch in view points, whereby a punter may see his "tailed" off horse as a non-trier he would probably see it as one that needs further medical testing.
I wasn’t watching anything just quoting what it said on the Sportinglife website for his last run so I suggest you take it up with their race reader.
Held up in last trio, weakened 3f out, tailed off opened 11/2
Well it’s a dreadful shame Andrew because I use a more professional service in The Racing Post, so how about you take it up with their race reader?
In rear, driven over 5f out, lost place over 2f out (op 11/2)
Now that this issue has hit a deadlock with you I will move on to more pressing matters from Glen.
I think that would constitute a good working definition of tailed off. Do you have a different understanding of the term to the rest of us?
In all honesty Glenn, I wouldn’t call Tartan Jura’s run "tailed off" even if I had to be remotely pessimistic here.
It’s quite evident that Tartan Jura looked a labored horse on the day which transpired into his racing character particularly in the last half mile when he visibly looked to have trouble breathing.
He’s a horse that lacks gears in the broadest sense whereby a race run 17 seconds outside standard wouldn’t have played into his strengths because he just doesn’t quicken whilst having the trouble of breathing up hill made his chances almost zero.
The 19 raced 5 year old Tartan Jura, tailed off last time out, wins today
Tailed off? not sure what race you was watching.
If you showed any distinct signs of racing knowledge then we probably wouldn’t be having this quote on quote conversation because to be quite frank what you’re insinuating is quite disgusting and holds no substance in terms of understanding through the form book or the detailed required experience in handling a horse.
The Betfair forum will be able to provide you with all your fishing needs, plenty of people on there who will support your case but this is a Racing Forum that houses arguably the most knowledgeable constituents on the internet so I’m not sure you’ll be catching anything soon.
His horses are the healthiest in training because he works them thoroughly day in day out. The reason why the form book can be inconsistent is that most of his horses are young, inexperienced and take time to adapt to a fully fledged training program so you’re going to get the tailed offs in between the rallied on gamely’s.
All of threads on Betfair about Mark Johnston recently have been negative, it looks like the virus has spread over to here but unfortunately I hope we see things with more perspective and honesty.
He was more likely sacked for the cardinal UK corporate sin of being found out publically, plus complaints from BHA paymasters within corporate bookmaking who had extra pay-outs to make once it became public. So BHA’s "tough" action is really a weak action, in that they only do anything when forced into it – no aiming to do things the right way all of the time ie with integrity.
Interesting,
So are you indicating that the media and bookmaking industry has greater power than the actual governing body over the sport?
Disgusting decision.
I really do feel sorry for Dave Smith and this new era of hard policy set by the BHA needs questioning in its own right.
Lets hope Dave can get back into racing commentary sometime in the near future, he was a great servant and consistant one at that.
Sorry for the outcome.
TBB,
That exact same post was read out on ATR by Jason Weaver today.
It’s nice to put a name to the face so to speak
Handicaps, because of their very nature they are always going to encourage a fair degree of cheating.
Hence the reason I’ll avoid all bar the valuable ones like the plague and even these I’ll treat with caution.
The late, great Sir Henry couldn’t abide them and I’m with him on that.
Unfortunately I can’t offer an alternative but is it coincidence that so many of these are sponsored by bookies ?
Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back ?
Lee
See this is where the problem is.
An honest horse will always run to around his genuine level of ability but how expensive is that for an owner? you’re always going to be in the firing line for one lurking below it’s real ability and always running at levels you’re genuinely exposed too?
I’ve come to admire the recent training regimes that give a sprinter a fair deal of freedom once having raced over a mile on several occasions you can often disguise a fair amount of ability particuarly if they are one paced 5th or 6th.
You have to feel for owners and trainers, there’s nothing in the rule book that protects them once their horse has reached it’s optimum level ability is there? it’s as if the handicapper leaves the ceiling open for some miraculous 10-20lb improvement.
Unlike Ginger, I won’t be drawn into your trolling battles and have asked the admin to remove your post beacause it equates to nothing in terms of the topic.
**** sake we got another year of this sociopath talking about trading leather and when he put it up.
A racecourse doesn’t give or take stamina away from a horse, well in a sense it does! a stiff racecourse will take away stamina from a horse quicker than an easy course.
The key point in this deduction is, by running at The Curragh your horse will not improve their stamina more than say running at a course such as Bath.
Hence there’s no causation between The Curragh and a horse’s stamina hence the article doesn’t address the question properly and comes to a invalid conclusion (Type 1).
The time of Oaks was very poor this year and so was The Derby.
Not many of the three year old’s this year will make it at Group 1 level at 4+.
The best three year old looks to be Leading Light from Aidan O’Brien’s yard.
