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  • in reply to: Winner Alright #1254697
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    Nice Winner. Well Done. :yahoo:

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254685
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    Car 3.00 – Rural Celebration – 100 e/w @ 9/2

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254681
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    I’m too long punting to throw a wobbly if my horse gets beat, bad rides happen everyday, suck it up and move on or end up demented, but that ride by McDonald on Rusty Rocket was atrocious. Murphy’s Law will now kick in, watch he will ride a treble. :yes:

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254679
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    Nmk 2.10 – Harbour Law – 100 e/w @ 10/1

    Good Luck All.

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254493
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    Car 2.00 – Rusty Rocket – 50 e/w @ 11/2

    Good Luck All.

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    in reply to: Raymo's Outsiders #1254489
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    Am Only 1 PT in PROFIT now!!!

    Ray, just looked at when you started the Thread, there’s a lot of punters would love to be up a point after 6 months, especially as you’re backing outsiders. :good:

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254477
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    Profit Forward : 522.50

    Day 6:
    Cat 3.50 – Novinophobia – 50 e/w @ 13/2 – 2nd @ 4/1 (R4 10p) +8.50
    Yar 4.10 – Halaan – 50 e/w @ 16/1 – Lost -100
    Cat 4.50 – Tanawar – 50 e/w @ 11/2 – 2nd +18.75
    Bat 6.00 – Mendacious Harpy – 50 e/w @ 12/1 – 3rd @ 16/1 (R4 10p) +130

    Profit On Day : 57.25

    Profit To Date : 579.75

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254435
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    Yar 4.10 – Halaan – 50 e/w @ 16/1

    Good Luck All.

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Conors Bets #1254434
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    Nice Thread Conor, I was looking at this race last night and I agree fully with what you say about it’s last race, Spencer and his usual hold up antics cost it, even more so with Spencer seemingly letting the horse decide when it wanted to jump off and the way he rode it during the race, I’m sure the horse thought he was on the gallops at home. I’m certain that was their plan though that day, the horse hadn’t ran for 19 months and wasn’t there to be put to a full test.

    I put up 5 selections last night but two are non runners, as a result I’ve looked at this race again, I’m gonna back Haalan e/w at a big price, ironically the only time I backed this horse before, was when Spencer cost it the race due to switching it off as usual and expecting it to fly well inside the last furlong.

    Best Of Luck Today.

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254427
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    2 non runners in Todays selections above.

    Yar 2.10 – Affordability

    Yar 2.40 – All The Winds

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    “…Those traders they have aren’t the brightest, I was looking at a horse at the start the other day, he threw the jockey off twice and wouldn’t go in the stalls twice, any fool could see he wasn’t going to take part but those thick traders thought his behaviour would increase his chances of running and winning, because they cut his price, they must have felt foolish a minute later when he was withdrawn and then had to cut all the others prices. …”

    It doesn’t matter who said it, but surely this is clever rather than stupid.

    If the price shortens then the deduction is higher, meaning less payout. Or have I got it my ass and elbow mixed up?

    trendy, I was being satirical. Even a blind man can see that the horse will not run, yet suddenly it’s price shortens in order to increase the Rule 4 deduction and screw the punter.

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254368
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    Selections for today:

    Yar 2.10 – Affordability – 50 e/w @ 10/1

    Yar 2.40 – All The Winds – 50 e/w @ 20/1

    Cat 3.50 – Novinophobia – 50 e/w @ 13/2

    Cat 4.50 – Tanawar – 50 e/w @ 11/2

    Bat 6.00 – Mendacious Harpy – 50 e/w @ 12/1

    Good Luck today with your bets. ;-)

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254358
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    Profit Forward : 97.50

    Day 5:
    Utt 6.50 – Taroum – 50 e/w @ 16/1 – Lost -100
    Bri 7.40 – Pacolita – 100 win @ 7/2 – Won +350
    Utt 7.50 – Blackwell Synergy – 50 e/w @ 20/1 – Lost -100
    Bri 8.40 – Fang – 100 win @ 9/4 – Won @ 11/4 +275

    Profit On Day : 425.00

    Profit To Date : 522.50

    There are no "Systems".

    in reply to: Play It Again #1254346
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    Slowly going through Threads VTC, two nice little Threads, this and Midnight, think I’ll have to change my signature. LOL.

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    in reply to: Horse Punter – My Bets #1254336
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    Some for tonight:

    Utt 6.50 – Taroum – 50 e/w @ 16/1

    Bri 7.40 – Pacolita – 100 win @ 7/2

    Utt 7.50 – Blackwell Synergy – 50 e/w @ 20/1

    Bri 8.40 – Fang – 100 win @ 9/4

    Good Luck all.

    There are no "Systems".

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    okjoe,

    Bookmakers like things to be on their own terms. They like to have the odds in their favour and the vast majority of the time, they get their own way. However, there are a few circumstances in which punters have an advantage over their adversaries, and each way betting can provide that rare opportunity.

    Dirty/snide/thieving each way bets can be found in races were there is generally a strong favourite (usually odds on), and a second and maybe third favourite with only small chance of upsetting the market leaders but a very good chance of filling the places. The rest of the field are usually big prices i.e. 14/1 bar.

    Bookies hate these races. Why? Because they cannot set different odds for the win terms and the place terms. They have to set one price and then the place odds are determined by the each way terms for that race. This can create some excellent value in the place market.

    Remember joe, you’re doing nothing wrong here, but in their eyes, you’re filth, because of your unwillingness to just, lie down and give them your money. Imagine going into Tesco’s and buying a packet of Cornflakes there every week because they are the cheapest or taking advantage of a two for one offer, only for the person on the checkout to turn around one day and label you as a “dirty/filthy customer” and tell you to never return. How many zeros would be on your settlement cheque after you’ve won your court case against them. Not so with our “bookie” friends, they make and are allowed to make their own laws.

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    Matron, I am Irish, Dublin born and bred. Why would I have an interest in the UK? My interest is because I back horses and have been doing so for close on 45 years. There are no borders when it comes to online gambling, I am restricted or refused just the same as anybody else when I want to have a bet on a horserace, yet I receive on a daily basis, the same emails trying to lure me towards their “Casino” site, with unrequested free bets lodged in my account, where I can gamble as much as I like, as often as I like.

    Me using the word gamble is actually wrong, it’s definition “to bet on an uncertain outcome” doesn’t apply here, the outcome is already known, to both me and the “Bookmaker”, that all casino games on the site, will always return a favourable healthy fixed percentage profit, to the “Bookmaker”. Come have a “Bet” with us on Leeds, Come have a “Bet” with us on The Eclipse, come “PLAY” on our Casino site. Bet definition “An agreement usually between two parties that the one who has made an incorrect prediction about an uncertain outcome will forfeit something stipulated to the other, A view or opinion, especially about something that cannot be known at the present time”. Play definition “recreational activity”.

    FOBT’s represent MASSIVE risk free profits, horseracing does not and that’s the problem, they want to completely eliminate any risk, understandably every business wants to make profits, eliminate risk and cut overheads. This is beyond that, this is greed, using every dirty, filthy trick in the book and not in the book more often, to screw a punter that wants to have a bet on a nag, in fact to screw anybody that deposits money with them for whatever purpose.

    Here in Ireland, when the world recession hit, we were on our knees, to the point that our credit rating was a triple minus rating, all normal borrowing sources dried up, we were bailed out, our Government introduced charges, taxes and cut spending beyond the bone. Thankfully know we are well ahead of our fiscal targets now, way ahead in repayments, our economy is growing in the right manner, not on false lending and spending. During the low point our Government passed a law banning entirely the introduction of FOBT’s into Ireland. A Country desperate for income into the public purse, looking a cash cow in the face and kicking it, because they saw the widespread effects that FOBT’s would have on both the individual primarily and then the betting Industry.

    I can walk into a bookies in Ireland and have a relatively decent bet, yet those same bookies won’t entertain me online where they can control me and get rid of me unless I go their Casino route. This isn’t an individual Country issue, it’s a punters issue, no matter where you live, if you’re a horsepunter you’re being screwed and it’s as a direct result of FOBT’s, their knock on effect and the “bookies” determination to eliminate all risk, just look at PP, having bought Betfair, they now through the running of a bot, control the entire market, pumping every bet taken into Betfair, jumping ahead of everybody, the perfect risk free machine, beautiful risk free commission. Try having a bet on their Sportsbook, if ain’t bigger and matchable on the exchange, forget it. I’m not going to comment further on this Thread, apologies to the OP for turning this Thread off issue a bit.

    With regard to Bet365, I found them extremely good in my dealings with them, the staff were beyond exceptionally helpful and nice, from opening the account I was up a good few bob and then was down to losing two grand, when over a period of one week in particular, I had very bad live video issues, which were down to them by their own admission and I closed the account. There might be more to the initial story than what’s revealed in the article. Nobody will know until an outcome is known.

    Punters are idiots, that Horsebettorforum account survey was only replied to by I think around 850 people, punters mouth off, but when it comes to the crunch, do nothing, couldn’t even be bothered to take 5 minutes to fill out an online form. No wonder “bookies” walk all over us.

    There are no "Systems".

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