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Persian Punch was blood and guts and all heart<br> He probably gave too much of himself
 Zorro lies dangerously wounded at the bottom of a lake applying a thick skin ointment to his hippo wounds. A child cries on the bank having been frightened by the attack. I will leave this scene to perservere with my awful clone account.
Marshall was first seen on Flutterboard but Dr Frankenstein Pierse his creator was born in Belfast Northern Ireland in the late 1960’s. He lived a secret life cosseted by his parents until his early thirties at least. When they first clapped eyes on him they wanted no more babies, they had seen perfection, but hidden under the bib and nappy was a little monster.
  They discouraged their son from work as they idolised him and wanted him at home to fuss over. They even bought him a bedroom computer and he soon found the world he needed to escape to.
 Marshall had little money to bet and five pounds was a whopper. As a bettor he once described himself as in the fourth division of the doc marten’s league. He had few friends or role models but he had a ton of imagination and had fun creating people. All of the people he created had a nasty streak in them. The reason may have been his father.
 His father certainly mocked him and it was rumoured he regularly beat him too, with a two foot cane and the buckle end of a trouser belt. I have no evidence to support his beatings, but Anikin, a big league bettor who hated him with all his guts often raised the possibility of it, as they squared up on the board.
  Marshall had two friends, and he never gargled and he never gambled until he met those two friends Nick Teen and Al. K. Hall. In other words he was a loner who drank with his parents and rolled his own little people.
May do a final piece or call it a day.
p.s. Tooting I agree there is some doubt with Turtle. He and Zorro were both together on this board in the early hours – which was very brazen or a sign to confuse. May just be accidental. I have special evidence which I can unfortunately broadcast with difficulty to suggest the masked man doesn’t carry a home on his back. Thanks for your thoughts and I have posited them next to Glen’s in my notebook.
Turtle – I have used your your metaphors and left the shells
yquem21, welcome, you are the first materialized product of the star article – shall we say Zorro’s child. And out of wrong comes right particularly born under a bright star  <br> ÂÂÂ
  I am no way suggesting that the heavy thunderstorm that hit London was Marshall’s work, he has no special powers as far as I know. I have collected acres of stuff on my main tormentor, it is gathering dust in a derelict house some fifteen miles west of London. I will rely on my memory. ÂÂÂ
 David Marshall sounds quite an ordinary name, bog standard, almost innocuous. However it is deceptive for within the thirteen letters lurks an all encompassing evil, and none greater was ever unleashed on a chatterboard. Pierse was the original creator and his creations represented a dynasty of discord that stretched out cyberspace itself with a multitude of iron fists.<br>  <br> Pierse had around fourteen aliases to my knowledge but I will list the seven most famous.
David Marshall<br> . David Marshall who referred to Marshal as ace<br> Harry Secombe’s willy ( offensive and rude )<br> Jesus Christ ( a lot of swearing but only 80% confirmed )<br> Kerplunk   ( Betfair ID) <br>gamble-<br>gamble – ( the most notorious )<br>pacal gamble
 I have spied your post below Ricky and interrupt the commentary above to make some comment. First of all thank you for your kind words on me. Marshall once called my contributions guff and Ian Davies himself has spoken in other places of its limitations, however making very positive comment on my contributions. It has been referred to as tired at least twice on Betfair by Duncan Disorderli.
  It is difficult for someone like Zorro who has an editor to please, the stricture of time, and must often write on mundane run of the mill subjects. I alternatively have almost complete freedom, just the drumming finger of the white knight as he surveys the purity of his precious section.
 Brave of Zorro to come on here to be shot at. I defend his writing and have enjoyed it, but a coin has two sides and it is interesting to hear different views. This board is often meat and no veg.<br>
Quote: from Ian Davies on 6:12 pm on April 27, 2004[br]Gamble,
The word ”Marshall” has been invoked in accusation against you by this reckless son of Watford. :biggrin:
As you know, Gamble, this word is so legendary and infamous it has acquired an almost supernatural unholiness.
It is invariably a portent of catastrophe and I await your reply with bated breath. :biggrin:
(Edited by Ian Davies at 6:22 pm on April 27, 2004)<br>
 I had no intention of writing today but then suddenly thought to put a concluding piece on here. Glenn of course brought up Marshall’s name in connection with Zorro, and the chief highlighted the man’s uncanny nack to wreak havoc.
   I am happy with Zorro and his low profile posting is what I expected and there is nothing forced about him. Turtle comes along at the same time, a mirror image, and my thoughts went in one direction. I have done some research on the connection and am largely satisfied they are separate entities.
  David Marshall is part of the malignant history of chatterboard. Shortly after his name was mentioned on here yesterday afternoon the skies of London clogged up and darkness reigned and a torrent of water, I have rarely seen the equal of, flushed the tarmac and bent the trees. It lasted well over one and a half hours. I love the energy of heavy rain and I pulled up my winged armchair and dragged it over to the large expanse of window and sat down and took in the tension. Distant thunder and lightning added to the appeal. In the descending gloom my mind reached out to Marshall and connected with his past evils. He made the leap into the second sphere as I did, freeing himself completely, but he was a bad man who sought to destroy the very world he once ruled for a few short weeks. ÂÂÂ
 I will write one short piece on him and then be gone.
(Edited by gamble at 11:32 am on April 28, 2004)
I thank you for your words Jilly<br> and take them all on face value.<br> I am pleased to have scored<br> over the ubiquitous one<br> whose stock is of high value.
Of course it does beg a question<br> can one love a phantom ?<br> You would suggest so<br> which leads us nicely back<br> to the opera and the mask of Zorro
It broke new ground in burn
I took your unbridled declaration of love seriously Jilly<br> until I researched and found you were prepared have  <br> the above operator’s love child in return for a million squids.
Of course Glen asked me to vouch for Zorro’s cape.<br> Glen himself has a long deep history in the Betfair pond<br> and is far better known than Marshall and his seven clones all chattering together<br>  ÂÂÂ
Ian just seen your post. Strangely when reading Glenn’s post the word Marshall completely slipped my conscious mind as if it wasn’t there.
 Turtle you are a strange animal indeed, but Marshall beats you by several ponds. He was a man that made it his lifework to copy me and bring havoc to a community of souls whom he finally destroyed in the biggest clone war cyberspace has ever encountered.
 God rest his soul I could write a book about his deficiencies alone. The man lived as dissolusioned illusionist – the biggest – and he reached for black stars, heel bent on domination.
Glenn, your own blue faced mask may well hide a thousand secrets, but no, the possibility is now a gambit two far, for my imagination and stuffed notebook.
 His cape did not rise to the challenge of telling us where he lived or the name of a man in a long ago article so maybe the smallest question mark flashes – engraved on his metal.
Full marks to Razeen – biggest – gold braces
Ian Davies and Suedehead – two tribes go to war – silver belts
and Lovely Lady gets a mench for her grey horses thread which was a nostril short.
apracing picks up a special black belt prize for an adieu that broke the bank at monte farlo.
 Apologies for reviving this thread and the lack of horse.  As an aside turtle writing is not uncommon among playwriters..
 " I’m paranoid about viruses and that’s my professional machine and a laptop. I write for such long stretches I get frightful backache so i’m horizontal, with my laptop on my chest and the cat on my feet. When I am serious I move to the big one "
                 Alan Ackybourn ÂÂÂ
Past big Sunday Editions – ( haigh is unfinished)
<br> 2967    The Fixer – Fallon’s finished ..   Razeen
2750    Grand National…     War Admiral
2241    If in doubt jump (even money to 6/1)..Ted<br> <br> 2220    farewell    …       apracing
2132    ATR the end is nigh   Ricky Lake
1510    Betting Exchanges – ruining racing ? johncockerill
1443   Guardian article (supposed to be funny) Ian Davies
1422  Venn Ottery      Suedehead
1344  ATR finishes next week ..   Black Stallion
1331  Light at the end ….tv pics to return … pegwell bay
1300  Lincoln Saturday      Lovely Ladey
1230  The Horse Racing Channel    Crazy Horse
1002  Milk it Mick- a pleasant return  Suedehead ÂÂÂ
The internet is a magical tool<br> and possibly the nearest any of us<br> will get to Christopher Robin<br> or the heavenly spheres.
Zorro, <br>a man breaking light sweat <br>who you have never seen before<br>and sitting in vest and underpants<br>just four miles away as the crow flies<br>has just risen, taken in the weather<br> and popped the kettle on,<br>but also in his ‘mind’ <br>has lined up some  impertinent quizzlings for you.
Q. Does that beefy mugshot in the press<br> bear any resemblance<br> to the current price of welsh hay,<br> or can you now stride the Bethnal Green road<br> with a lighter step <br>and incognito ?
Q. Our very own meshaheer is looking to follow your footsteps. What on earth would you have done if your pen had issued standard ink. Myself as a youngun I wanted to farm.
Q.. Do you still mainly bet in cash <br>and now that Mannings gone ( I think ) <br>who with.
Q.. Turtle mentioned writer’s block<br>    I have never encoutered that<br>    but don’t have deadlines like you. <br>    Is it like a physical disease for you<br>    and how do you counteract ?
Possibly Zorro may comment whilst tethering <br> his horse at the friendly saloon, unless of course<br> he is on another shwashbuckler.<br> ÂÂÂ
Not wishing to drag you down Jilly<br> but not ten posts ago you claimed<br> to be unhinged. :biggrin:
I have been out on the downs this<br> day to recuperate the <br> intoxicating poisons<br> of last night.<br> Those very same poisons were<br> strangely to be found in le shopping bag<br> that swung onto my legs on my way home.
Zorro, there are many unanswered questions<br> in life no more than the legend of the masked rider.<br> I will not press you further, but wish to surprise you tonight.
Your mother chiquita was a veritable beauty <br> who knocked powdered spots off Zeta Jones<br> as she vamped as Elena Montero.<br> She stayed at Maw and Paws house<br> as a young girl. I wrote affectionately about her.
As for abstract art Racing Daily<br> I will answer that in the next post
flatcapgamble… am I in the racing section ?
Turtle enjoy your evening, I have been out and returned with two red bottles, to blow zee detective’s brains out, ha ha.
I return le compliment turtle, and I make a further observation. You in fact are far cleverer than I, not only on here, but in la realite, I mean in the real world, full of copy and deadlines that dont concern me, and the foolscap that sadly does. ;)
My dog below makes further barking comment
flatcapgamble…of course the ‘man of the people’ lower case t and the picture were further clues, but nothing is certain in this half world of shifting images. You remain the turtle to him above…da sleuth with the flatcap. I’ll say this gamble, he’s a better Poirot than you are, even on his back :biggrin:  ÂÂÂ
:yikes: a caravan<br>
Turtle I have been thinking deep poirot thoughts about you.
You seem very relaxed and very confident for a freshly painted poster :scratchchin:
You are a creature that lives in or near water <br>with a thick outer covering – a shell. A perfect place to hide, mais oui
Merthyr Tydfil is a mining town and its iron mines hide and burrow deep. A perfect place to bury oneself, or is my notebook deceiving me from… how do you say…ahh what you english call the obvious
An oeuvre is a defintive covering that embraces an entire work or study. Hmmm
Pit ponies – small and not easily seen.
I have been a detective for several years and I connect loosely associated facts and make some connective sense of them. N’est ce pas ? ÂÂÂ
flatcapgamble… there is a little quote button just over your head
Turtle you will write much more easily on your back :)
Having skewered this stellar thread out of orbit<br> I will make amends and ground it back into<br> the swordman Zorro’s lap.
Paul Haigh, I do not know of anyone who has made such an unusual and novel entrance to this wobbly<br>place of opinions. Might I welcome you and later direct one question towards you that is of some interest to me.
You have received a warm welcome, in this place where people come and go. Ardross is your one detractor it seems, but a small and scattered windy village in the cold highlands might find little in common anyway with a man of seductivey slippery words from cosy cardigan bay. ÂÂÂ
My question is this and Ian touched on it earlier.<br> The wonders of the web has only touched your writing when the sun had set, the ink was dry, and we were all addicts.
Why exactly was that ? ÂÂÂ
Oh dear is it that long<br> I and others have been marooned<br> at the mercy of  these tipsy tides of derision<br> Will Self will have me down as a gibberer<br> as I recall his haunting line
" Who the f*** needs to surf the web "
An unfortunate selection of words<br> and thank you for restoring order Rory
I don’t think anything or anyone can save us<br> this is an island of chitter chattering jackanapes<br> we’re all doomed
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