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You are absolutely correct, although with Aintree it was more a request to fill any gaps I have prior to 1975. I think actual membership finished in 1975, although a ‘punters Race Club’ operated between 1995 and 2000, as seen by the badges on the page.
Regarding the offer of the most recent Kelso badges, I have now had the chance to design the Kelso page from my own collection, but as you can see if you access the link below, I am missing 2015-17
http://www.greyhoundderby.com/Kelso%20Racecourse%20History.html
Thanks for helping to fill any gapsThank you for the offer of Kelso badge scans. I do not have 2014 right through to 2017 so they would be appreciated. If you go to the bottom of any one of the course links provided in my initial request you will get the email where you can send the scans.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to offer scans.Although it will be sad if Kempton goes, similar stories have hit horse racing, and are currently hitting greyhound racing with Wimbledon, throughout the past 300 years. Since publishing ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ barely 2 months ago Hereford has reopened, Folkestone’s departure has become terminal, it is more likely than not that Kempton will go, and a third racecourse might appear in Newmarket to go with the two they already have. Whilst at this point in time the last rites are being given to Kempton, this is nothing new to racing. In the early 19th century Leeds lost its main racecourse because the Aire and Calder Navigation Company were given permission to divert the river through the centre of the course. St Albans Racecourse held a very prominent position in the Racing Calendar in the 1830s, but racing ceased in June 1837, yet within a year a better set of racecourses were established barely 4 miles away on 600 acres of the Gorhambury Estate which had no less than 5 distinct courses; the Fir Clump course was 2 miles in length; The Lime Kiln course was a mile and a half; the Cherry Tree Course was a mile and a yard; the TYC was a 5 furlong sprint course, whilst The Stand Course was 2 miles in circumference. If Kempton goes it will enter racing history as a course which lasted almost 150 years, but put that fact into context, it is less than Bogside (157), Rothbury (206), Lewes (252), Lanark (316) and Lincoln 367 years, and each of these were equally popular in their day.
Thanks for ordering the books; Volume 1 is now available at full price on Amazon, but TRF members can still get a 30% discount on all 4 volumes if ordering before Christmas.
Was it Tralee which closed in 2008 and is covered in Volume 4 of Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow?
For those members interested in old racecourses this is the final plug for ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ which provide a brief history of almost 1600 former places in the UK and Ireland where racing took place, and then match 85 of those former courses with the 85 current courses, giving an argument why one in each match still survives while the other closed.
TRF members who order the full set before 16th December will receive a discount by quoting code TRF70 with their emailed order.
http://www.injuredjockeys.co.uk/fundraising-news.asp?$=323&o=The final plug for these books which provide a brief history of almost 1600 former places in the UK and Ireland where racing took place, and then match 85 of those former courses with the 85 current courses, giving an argument why one in each match still survives while the other closed. The final 5 matches are:- Match 81 is Windsor v Egham, Match 82 is Wolverhampton v Birmingham, Match 83 is Worcester v Pershore, Match 84 is Yarmouth v Norwich, Match 85 is York v Harrogate.
TRF members who order the full set before 16th December will receive a discount by quoting code TRF70 with their emailed order.
http://www.injuredjockeys.co.uk/fundraising-news.asp?$=323&o=The 85 matches between current racecourses and former racecourses in the books I am plugging are almost at the end of my report on each of the matches.
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 76 is Uttoxeter v Derby (who would have thought the one survives while the other closed?), Match 77 is Warwick v Coventry, Match 78 is Wetherby v Leeds (read about why Leeds never firmly established a racecourse), Match 79 is Wexford v Enniscorthy, Match 80 is Wincanton v Bournemouth.
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More tomorrow, for the final time, when I get that far.With 85 matches between current racecourses and former racecourses in the books, I am almost at the end of a report on each of the matches.
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 71 is Thirsk v Hambleton, Match 72 is Thurles v Templemore, Match 73 is Tipperary v Cashel, Match 74 is Towcester v Northampton (many visible signs of this former racecourse exist today), Match 75 is Tramore v Kilkenny.
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More tomorrow when I get that far.Thank you for the information about Middleham.
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 66 is Sedgefield v Bishop Auckland, Match 67 is Sligo v Tubbercurry, Match 68 is Southwell v Newark, Match 69 is Stratford v Leamington Spa, Match 70 is Taunton v Bridgwater.
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More tomorrow when I get that far.Did the success of a racecourse in bygone days rely on an enlightened individual?
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 61 is Redcar v Hartlepool, Match 62 is Ripon v Middleham (why did Middleham, with so many horses on the premises, not survive as a racecourse?), Match 63 is Roscommon v Tuam, Match 64 is Salisbury v Stockbridge (a highly successful course like Stockbridge probably failed because just one person did not want it), Match 65 is Sandown v Croydon.
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More tomorrow when I get that far.Why were some racecourses successful while others failed?
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 56 is Nottingham v Mansfield, Match 57 is Perth v Stirling, Match 58 is Plumpton v Eastbourne, Match 59 is Pontefract v Wakefield, Match 60 is Punchestown v Howth Park.
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More tomorrow when I get that far.Why did some racecourses close whilst others nearby still thrive today?
I analysed 5 more matches of Chapter 9 of ‘Racecourses Here Today and Gone Tomorrow’ last night in which each of today’s racecourses is matched against a nearby former course, Match 51 is Navan v Mullingar, Match 52 is Newbury v Lambourn (now that’s an interesting argument), Match 53 is Newcastle v Durham, Match 54 is Newmarket v Ipswich, Match 55 is Newton Abbot v Torquay (but for Hitler it could still have been Torquay).
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More tomorrow when I get that far.We need only focus on your winners which are priced at:-
5/6 Evens 9/4 7/2 7/2 9/2 6/1 13/2 9/1 20/1 22/1
A B C D E F G H I J KWe are going to presume that you covered all 43 selections in £1 8-horse accumulators, meaning your total stake is £145,008,513
With 11 winners you have 165 successful 8-horse accumulators.
The best way of working it out is to calculate the returns from the 11-horse accumulator and then reduce them to 165×8-horse accumulators by dividing by the trebles.
The 11-horse accumulator pays:-
(11x2x13x9x9x11x7x15x10x21x23)/(6x4x2x2x2x2) = £336,549,494.50
Therefore, your total return from your 165 eight-horse accumulators is:-
336,549,494.50/(each of the 165 trebles shown below)
ABC 11.9 AFH 75.6 BEH 67.5 CEK 336.4 DHI 337.5
ABD 16.5 AFI 100.8 BEI 90 CFG 125.1 DHJ 708.75
ABE 16.5 AFJ 211.8 BEJ 189 CFH 134.1 DHK 776.25
ABF 20.2 AFK 231.9 BEK 207 CFI 178.8 DIJ 945
ABG 25.7 AGH 96.3 BFG 77 CFJ 375.4 DIK 1035
ABH 27.5 AGI 128.3 BFH 82.5 CFK 411.1 DJK 2173.5
ABI 36.7 AGJ 269.5 BFI 110 CGH 170.6 EFG 185.625
ABJ 77 AGK 295.2 BFJ 231 CGI 227.5 EFH 247.5
ABK 84.3 AHI 137.5 BFK 253 CGJ 477.8 EFI 519.75
ACD 26.8 AHJ 288.75 BGH 105 CGK 523.3 EFJ 569.25
ACE 26.8 AHK 316.25 BGI 140 CHI 243.8 EFK 236.25
ACF 32.8 AIJ 385 BGJ 294 CHJ 511.9 EGH 315
ACG 41.7 AIK 421.7 BGK 322 CHK 560.6 EGI 661.5
ACH 44.7 AJK 885.5 BHI 150 CIJ 682.5 EGJ 724.5
ACI 59.6 BCD 29.25 BHJ 315 CIK 747.5 EGK 337.5
ACJ 125.1 BCE 29.25 BHK 345 CJK 1569.8 EHI 708.75
ACK 137 BCF 35.75 BIJ 420 DEF 111.375 EHJ 776.25
ADE 37.1 BCG 45.5 BIK 460 DEG 141.75 EHK 945
ADF 45.4 BCH 48.75 BJK 966 DEH 151.875 EIJ 1035
ADG 57.8 BCI 65 CDE 65.8 DEI 202.5 EIK 2173.5
ADH 61.9 BCJ 136.5 CDF 80.4 DEJ 425.25 EJK 337.5
ADI 82.5 BCK 149.5 CDG 102.4 DEK 465.75 FGH 288.75
ADJ 173.25 BDE 40.5 CDH 109.7 DFG 173.25 FGI 385
ADK 189.75 BDF 49.5 CDI 146.3 DFH 185.625 FGJ 808.5
AEF 45.4 BDG 63 CDJ 307.1 DFI 247.5 FGK 885.5
AEG 57.8 BDH 67.5 CDK 336.4 DFJ 519.75 FHI 412.5
AEH 61.9 BDI 90 CEF 80.4 DFK 569.25 FHJ 866.25
AEI 82.5 BDJ 189 CEG 102.4 DGH 236.25 FHK 948.75
AEJ 173.25 BDK 207 CEH 109.7 DGI 315 FIJ 1155
AEK 189.75 BEF 49.5 CEI 146.3 DGJ 661.5 FIK 1265
AFG 70.6 BEG 63 CEJ 307.1 DGK 724.5 FJK 2656.5
GHI 525 GHK 1207.5 GIK 1610 HIJ 1575 HJK 3622.5
GHJ 1102.5 GIJ 1470 GJK 3381 HIK 1725 IJK 4830e.g. Your best accumulator gives you 336,549,494.5/11.9 = 28,281,470
Your worst gives you 336,549,494.5/4830 = 69,678.98
The total of all of your 165 accumulators is £519,718,098 meaning you make a profit of £374,709,585.
Final tip. DON’T RISK ITGiven 43 selections, the number of 8 horse accumulators is:-
(43x42x41x40x39x38x37x36)/(8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1) = 145,008,513
This is much more feasible than having Goliaths.
Furthermore, if you got the 11 winners you outlined, then you would actually have 165 successful 8-horse accumulators.
I could even be tempted to work out whether you would make a profit, given the stated odds of your winners.
Hope this helps and I haven’t put the student off too much.Don’t speak too soon for the wheel’s still in spin. Consider the following:-
If you are going to cover 43 selections in Goliaths at 10p per bet (i.e £24.70 per Goliath) then there are 145,008,513 Goliaths costing you an initial outlay of £3,581,710,271.
On 10,518,300 of those Goliaths you are not even going to get one winner, that’s £259,802,010 down the swanee straight away. What is worrying is that my recycling bin holds just 50,000 losing slips at any one time, and is only collected every fortnight, so will take me 8 years just to get rid of the losing slips.
It does mean that I have 134,490,213 slips on which I am going to get some sort of return, and whilst I am always satisfied to get some sort of return, it takes the ladies in my betting shops more than 10 seconds to satisfy me each time. Therefore, even if they pay me out at 10 seconds per slip, it is going to take me over 43 years, being there all day and night every day and night for 43 years, before I get paid. Now while my wife likes me to give her a bit of peace every now and then, she might suspect something if I am in the company of the betting shop lady for 43 years!
I grant you that, even on the Goliaths where you only get a double up at 20/1 and 22/1, your total cost for those Goliaths was £22,382,942 and your total return is £43,769,073, giving you a total profit on those bets of £21,386,131, before you get too cocky think of this:-
On 906192 Goliaths you only got two winners at 5/6 and evens. You would have only got a return of £398,724 from these, meaning you made a loss of £21,984,217 on these bets.
Believe me, overall you are a loser!!!
Over and out.
