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  • in reply to: Irish Champion Stakes 2016 #1263223
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    LOL – thanks, Nathan. Much appreciated. And thanks for the welcome.

    I share your views on Eqtiraan BTW. Hope they’re patient with him and he’s able to reach his potential next year

    in reply to: Irish Champion Stakes 2016 #1263221
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    Had it been a “very moderate” Epsom Derby, Harzand would’ve found one or two too good for him in the Irish Derby and Idaho who was (let’s face it) only 3rd at Epsom – would’ve found at least one or two too good in the Voltigeur and not had a collateral form line (through Housesofparliament) that suggests he would’ve won a Group 1 St Leger.

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    In order for Harzand to find one or two too good in the Irish Derby, surely he would of had to run against something that did not run at Epsom or at the very least handle the track? Looking at the result tells us that the only ones who didn’t take their chance in the English Derby were Stellar Mass, Claudio Monteverdi and Ebediyin. All 33/1 or bigger and fairly exposed, too. Therefore, he was never really going to find one or two too good that he hadn’t beaten 3 weeks prior which dispels the theory of us finding out the strength of the Derby form in the Irish version.

    Hope I’ve used the quote tool in the right way and thanks for the welcome, GT :good:

    in reply to: Irish Champion Stakes 2016 #1263213
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    Long time reader, first time poster…

    I think it’s fairly clear that this years 3yo middle distance crop are below average as Joni has pointed out. Yes, races have been won by beaten Epsom horses since, but they’re just beating each other or running against horses of less ability who didn’t run in the Derby. It’s no big deal. Some years you get a better crop of 3yo’s, this year we haven’t … but fair play to Steve for recognizing this early on.

    I do think that GT’s posts can come across in a most condescending manner. Especially his choice of emoji’s. They serve only to rile which often brings to an immediate halt some of the excellent discussion on here by responses turning personal. A real shame.

    Back to horse racing though and I thoroughly enjoyed Saturday’s Champion Stakes. I get the impression Rouget will keep the winner at 10F which will be a real loss for the Arc (my favourite flat race). I don’t rate the Japanese runner and I think most of the antepost value has gone (unless anyone has the direct line into Ballydoyle’s running plans). Too much can hinge on the draw, but if I were to pick two against the field right now, it would be La Cressonaire and New Bay. I’d trust Fabre to have him peaking on the day

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