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I’m puting this one up as he runs today in the Classic Trial Stakes at Kempton.
I’m hoping that Hypothetical is as good as I think he is. He couldn’t have
been any more impressive on his debut at Chelmsford. Travelled well and
quickened in the style of a really good horse. I’ve lumped on at 33/1 and
if he lives up to my expectations today, and with the Gosden/Dettori factor,
that will be more than halved.June 3, 2020 at 07:42 in reply to: 2019-20 Ante Post Comp – Selections From 16 February Onwards #1489446
Hypothetical 33/1 various
1 PT E?W
Thanks nathan, yes it’s a pity So Beloved couldn’t have got 1 more horse behind him,
at 25/1 he would have covered a poor day. I can’t complain, I had a really good day
on Monday and lumped a decent wager on Hypothetical who runs today in the Classic
Trial Stakes at Kempton. With 4 days of Newmarket coming up and the 1000 and 2000
Guineas at the weekend, I’m going to leave it with just the 1 bet. I thought he
looked very decent on his debut at Chelmsford and put the field to the sword in a
matter of strides. He’s got Frankie on him this time which is a plus and Gosden
targets this race having won it 9 times. I really think this horse could be a bit
special, and I’ve had a nice bite at him 33/1 for the Derby.
I know you like Max Vega Jac, I think we’ve got the best 2 horses in this by far
so hopefully one of us lands it. Best of luck anyone having a go today
That was disappointing with Born A King Jac. He looked to be travelling so well,
quite an eye catcher, but he fizzled out in the last furlong or so. I still think
he travelled like a good horse, I’ll stick him in the notebook, I think he might
pop up yet when least expected.
To be honest Jac, I think I dodged a bullet with Growl. The omens leading up
to the race weren’t encouraging. I reckon he thought “if you think I’m going in
the stalls when I’m this much out of shape you’re not on”. I think a watching brief
might be called for next time out
At the moment Growl is saying I’m not even going into the bloody stalls
You’re probably right Jac, age maybe is catching up with So Beloved. It’s a pity
for the e/w that he couldn’t get 1 place up, finished 5th with 4 places covered
Not sure the signs are too good for Growl in the next, he’s drifting like a barge.
My worry was that they might want his mark down for a big one, certainly there
has been no money from the stable. I need Growl to say, stuff you lot I’m going
to win anyway. I’ll find out shortly
Morning all, it feels so good to wake up and be able to browse through todays
offerings. I think there’s a fair chance that 3 old boys might have a say in
things at Newcastle today.
1.20 So Beloved 20/1 4 places Skybet
On the face of it there has to be a bit of concern picking a 10yr old who hasn’t won a
race for 4 years. He’s one of these horses who should have won more than he has, but he’s
also been close a number of times in very decent races, including Group 2 and 3 races.
Probably his style of racing, often trying to come from last to first, is part of the
reason he maybe has come close but no cigar. He maybe could be called unlucky in his last
but one effort at Lingfield last backend when running into a bit of a Gosden hotpot in
Alrajaa who won 4 on the bounce. Hard to know when they think it’s time for their pipe and
slippers, but if the enthusiasm is still there this year, he must have a decent shout off
the lowest mark he’s run off in 5 years. At the odds I think it’s worth chancing that his
get up and go hasn’t got up and gone
2.30 Growl 20/1 4 places Skybet
He’s another who isn’t getting any younger at 8yrs, but there’s no doubting that on his
day he’s a top class sprinter. Runner up in the Ayr gold Cup last september and winner
of the consulation race for the great St Wilfred at Ripon a month earlier. His mark had
been dropping from a high of 114, until the above 2 races which saw him rise from 89 to
98. If there is a danger it’s that they may like his mark to drop to have a go at one of
the big sprints again this year, but on ability he has every right to waltz away with
this at big odds.
5.25 Azzuri 13/2 4 places Skybet
It’s a couple of years since he graced the flat, but he’s a decent jumper who seems to
be to do well at this time of year. He seemed to have gone off the boil since his last
win at Ayr last April, but he may have had a breathing problem and he’s had a wind op
back in February. If it’s sorted the problem, he wasn’t seeing his races out, then I
think he’s got a decent chance in what looks a relatively weak race.
I’ve done a speculative treble e/w as well, just in case they all oblige.
I’ve already had a punt for one tomorrow. I think that Hypothetical in the Unibet
Classic Trial Stakes at Kempton looks like a very decent John Gosden type. The way he sat
behind them in his debut at Chelmsford until Havlin pressed the trigger and ran away from
the rest was impresive im my book. I expect him to be gambled on so I’ve taken the 4/1 at
Good luck with your pair today Jac, I like the look of Born A King too, let’s hope he takes
after his dad
Good luck everyone, and still stay safe
Nice write up Jack. Quite a difficult one as several have given enough to show
that they could be decent enough. The one that strikes me as having the most
potential is Hypothetical. I really like the way he picked up when he got
the gap and put the race to bed in a matter of strides. I’ve got to think there’s
more to come and Frankie takes over from Havlin which isn’t a bad thing. I’ve taken
the 4/1 with Betvictor as I expect him to shorten up quite a bit
before the off. Good luck with Highland Chief
Just to let everyone be aware, there is a thread for the competition now in
the Competitions Forum. Still a couple of weeks until the competition gets
underway, but you can make an entry now and change and replace any or all
of your horses right up until the start at 11am on the 16th June 2020.
HUGE prize being offered by the Tote for the overall winner. Last year the
winner waltzed off with a cool £170,000. There is also a £10,000 monthly
prize so get working on those stables now. I had hoped that they might have
had a League of Leagues competition, we did suggest it to them last year,
and despite promising sounds for future competitions, we appear to have been
given “the bum’s rush”. I hope there is a decent number of participants in
the league, and if so then I’ll stick up a prize for the league winner, yet
to be decided, and don’t get overly optimistic about it, but I’ll declare
what it is before the off.
The details about the competition and general information about the league
are all in the thread in the Competitions forum. Hope to see plenty of you
As Jac already knows I was watching the race, and although the fall was only caught
by the camera for a second or 2, I knew it was a bad one. What a promising young horse
full of life, and all gone in a second. You’re right Moe, everyone connected with
Kirby’s yard will be wishing racing started back a week later. Poor lad. RIP
Thanks Nick, 1st day back and it’s a good one. It’s given me a nice bit of
leeway for the classic weekend coming up
Just in case anyone was wondering, now that we have a few entries, my stable
is “Off The Bridle”
That was as close as it gets Jack, I wasn’t even sure she had won with the
slow mo and freeze frame, it took the photo to be sure. I take it you had
SOTD e/w at a decent 18/1. That covers it a bit but hard luck with the win.
Just heard that the fall of December Second was fatal. What a shame to end the
first day back like this. He was a decent sort, only once out of the 1st two
in his 7 runs prior to this. They must all be gutted about this, Poor boy.