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    madman marz
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    Satatistics damn statistics, I wouldn’t worry about Dettori’s record, Gordon Richards only rode one derby winner, Max.<br>Yes there is plenty of question marks, and Epsom is a law onto itself, but you have to admit he was undeniably impressive and if there is improvement in him as PCH says there is, he is by far the most likely winner. At the odds, no thanks, and Corals 11/10 is probably them running scared, not wanting to take any more on the horse.

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    Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 1:50 pm on May 19, 2007[br] <br>As a punter who takes the game seriously – which I assume you are – would you seriously back a horse who is unproven at the trip, on undulations, on a graveyard of a track, who may need a plenty of cut to run to its best, who is facing several fancied opponents…

    …and worse, ridden by a jockey with a race record of 0-14?

    No. I’m still a layer as it stands.;)

    Lay away max. <br>Most of the problems above apply to most the field; some to all. The Dettori factor is also meaningless, as he has simply never had a mount good enough to win previously.<br>On the bare facts, as they stand at the moment, he is head and shoulders above the rest of the likely field.

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    Unproven at the trip Max? Have you seen this horses breeding? He will get fourteen furlongs let alone twelve, he will improve on his mark to date for stepping up to twelve furlongs.

    The ground was pretty much good at York, glided over it.

    As for Dettori’s record – put him on Shergar he’d’ve won the Derby – Point being you can’t win a race if you don’t have the horse to do it.

    I reckon Authorised will go off odds on.

    Maxilon 5Maxilon 5
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    You might all very well be right. It depends on how you look at it – there are many ways you can interpret a race and there are a lot of intangibles.

    Just read about the Salford Mill gallop and about Chapple Hyams confidence. And nothing is forthcoming from the Tregoning camp.  No point getting carried away with the laying idea.  :biggrin:

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    York was a great meeting. I was there every day, bollin dereks lovely, he looked like he could go again after. Fingers crossed for easterby that he’s his next bollin eric. <br>Wasnt Anna Pavolva only favorite cos frankie was on her?  if paul hanagan had been on her i doubt she’d have gone off on those odds.

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    Don’t know about that Rach,but PH is a better jock than LD.

    IMHO :cool:

    Money on
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    she wudda went off odds on if kim tinkler had of been on board

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