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I suppose it isn’t against any rules but it’s a strange affair – good on Jane Chapple-Hyam for taking a stand.
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if a race is perceived to be being used for a non-BHA purpose, there is Rule (A) 12:
12.4 In any case of expediency…… the Authority may
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12.4.4 refuse to allow a horse duly entered to run in any race.http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/Orders-and-rules&staticID=126174&depth=3
There’s been plenty of “no-hopers” chucked in to top races by vain owners in the past so, while this one might rank lower than most in the hopelessness ratings I don’t see why there should be any more grumbling about this instance than previous instances
It’s a rather tiresome practice and would be quite simple to prevent: just add a rating under which a horse wouldn’t be eligible to run. This could be left as late as the final declarations if an owner is prepared to haemorrhage wedge at the successive entry stages, in the hope their pride and joy can rise up the ratings before June
If the owner who wants to run the horse “to get some good publicity for our charity” was hoping to raise the profile of the fund to repair his local church roof, then okay; but Great Ormond Street is hardly in need of greater exposure
Incidentally, anyone tempted by the 1/8 to finish last would be well-advised to clear up a possible ambiguity: is it last of the finishers, which means the bet would be a winner if there were fallers and pulled-ups, or last of the field in which case the bet would be a loser if there were F and PU
The ‘true’ odds of finishing last of the field are significantly shorter than finshing second-last
I think one of the reasons that it seems more of a big deal is because of the particular difficult nature of Epsom itself – it is difficult enough for experienced riders keeping an inexperience horse balanced coming down the hill and off Tattenham Corner but when you add a very green jockey who has never even ridden over the course before the chances of something dangerous happening is increased greatly.
While they are talking about charity etc this seems more of a publicity stunt and to garner the maximum attention you would imagine that the orders would be to try and get to the front from the start and be there as long as possible – if that is the case, this would be a worry once it starts dropping back through the large field especially if it is coming down the hill (hopefully it would be well out of the way before then).
Fingers crossed it stays out of the way but would imagine going forward a minimum rating could be applied, which would stop this from happening in the future.
I’ve no interest in the race but this is a similar scenario to those which eventually led to special restrictions being placed to prevent lack of quality of horse and of rider in the Grand National on safety grounds. There is inherently less danger in the Derby, however, a degree of risk exists in any horse race, it too is a showpiece event, and the track is notoriously tricky – so I would expect a specific rule to be created for future runnings.
Well if it’s near the front then starts going backwards through a big bunched field coming down the hill….I bloody hope nothing behind it clips its heels. Michelle Payne is probably happy enough to be otherwise engaged.
Dick Dastardly and Muttley will be in the race at this rate. No doubt beaten on the nod by Professor Pat Pending, with Rufus Ruffcut and Sawtooth taking third spot in the Buzz Wagon.
That sort of crap is OK in the London Marathon but I think some semblance of quality needs to be kept in the Derby, before we see runners with jockeys dressed as Rhinos running in the name of Charridy.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The charity runners in the London Marathon have to start at the back so they don’t risk hampering the elite runners.
If Epsom welcomes Poundland racegoers it’s kind of hard to turn away Poundland horses.
More seriously, the BHA are pretty much saying it ain’t our problem, it’s down to the other jocks to look after themselves and their mounts. How that defence will pan out if there’s a bad accident is another matter entirely.
If Epsom welcomes Poundland racegoers it’s kind of hard to turn away Poundland horses.
I was in Poundland today Joe. It’s TWO Diore Lia’s for your quid.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Don’t think this filly is going to cause any major problems in the race, she’ll be slowly away and lucky if she finishes the race before they’re going to post for the 5.15.
Would love to see a top class filly take on the colts in The Derby but can’t understand the logic behind this publicity stunt, next thing we’ll hear is that she’s in foal to Frankel!!
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...The rider is quoted in the Racing Post as saying she won’t be pushing the horse to get to the front early on, she’s expecting to be at the back of the field. It sounds as though she’s under no illusions about the horse’s ability, thankfully.
I really don’t see the point of running it though.
Well, if it’s within the rules then nobody can really complain. I just hope the charity makes more out of this than they would have if all the costs associated with this were donated directly to them.
There have been quite a number of equine fatalities in the DErby, especially in the 1960s when there were some big fields with poor quality runners. After the “pile up” in 1962 I think there was some talk about reviewing numbers and horse ability.
Lets hope she stays at the back.<p abp=”430″>There have been quite a number of equine fatalities in the DErby, especially in the 1960s when there were some big fields with poor quality runners. After the “pile up” in 1962 I think there was some talk about reviewing numbers and horse ability.<br abp=”431″>
Lets hope she stays at the back.I had never been a lover of ante post betting until I saw a horse I was sure would win the Derby. I took 8/1 on the French horse Angers in the 1960 Derby that became 2/1 SP and I think went as low as 6/4, the shortest price for a Derby I’d ever seen. It broke a fetlock soon after the start and had to be put down. I might try to get a decent price on Jenkins’ horse not being last.
I also remember one of the big staying races around fifty years ago. One trainer had two horses in the race but didn’t have his stable jockey on either, he rode another trainer’s horse that led into the finishing straight. As both his boss’s horses came to challenge, he suddenly dropped back taking all likely challengers with him, he then ran on into a place. Just the way it happened or a well-laid plan?
Charity is always a good cause, but you’ve got to think there’s a better way.
Reminds me of the Jam Festival scene from The Day Today
The horse has been taken out. Despite the jockey’s assertion that she had every right to run in the race and the owner’s robust defence of the horse running, the BHA have said the jockey cannot ride in the race. Explanation to follow.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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