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And are they doing us all a great disservice by not doing so?
I’m not so sure they want to do this. You could also ask why are Jamie Osborne any many others allowed to train? There are too many things in life we won’t get answered and horse racing mysteries are part of them.
I’m afraid its seriously uncool to point the finger in Racing because the whole industry thrives on a romanticised air of mystery and everyone thinking or pretending they’re in the know when in fact the romance actually amounts to corruption at one end and doing what you think you can get away with at the other with a bit of properly conducted honest sport in the middle.
Add into the mix that the people who run the sport are either totally self serving or utterly incompetent and you have the perfect recipe for blatantly suspect telephone conversations like the one ‘allegedly’between Dwyer and Mulrennan not being investigated properly.Sickening.
The BHA did have an investigation. This from the Guardian, dated Feb 5 2015:
The BHA too has now decided that no formal charges will arise from the recording, although both jockeys will be informed that their conduct was unacceptable at a meeting which it is understood Nick Rust, the new chief executive of the BHA, will also attend.
“Having interviewed both Dwyer and Mulrennan, and taken all reasonable steps available to investigate the matter, the British Horseracing Authority does not consider that the evidence available justifies charging either rider with misconduct under BHA’s Rules of Racing,” Robin Mounsey, the BHA’s spokesman, said on Thursday.
“While the BHA is conscious of the fact that neither rider admitted that the recording was a complete or wholly accurate record of the conversation that took place between them, BHA expresses grave disapproval that two licensed jockeys found it appropriate to hold any sort of conversation of the nature apparent from the recording.
“The BHA is disappointed that senior jockeys considered such a conversation appropriate on any terms and will speak further with both jockeys in due course. In the meantime, BHA reminds all jockeys of the standards of behaviour and integrity that are expected of them at all times.”
Apologies…….I forgot to include mealy-mouthed.
What a ridiculous heap of a going through the motions toothless and pointless response that was by the BHA.Hopeless.
It was appalling.
If it’s any consolation for lovers of karmic justice, Dwyer’s career has gone into nosedive mode since this all came out.
Sadly I doubt this came from trainers/owners taking any moral stance against Dwyer. The Tregoning yard is almost permanently out of form and his riding style is increasingly haphazard in a finish (see horrendous bumper cars effort on Gawdawpalin).
From a pragmatic viewpoint I can understand the BHA’s reluctance to charge.
Unless they had solid proof the recording was whole and unedited and every part was from that one conversation, securing a conviction would have been impossible.
From a pragmatic viewpoint I can understand the BHA’s reluctance to charge.
Unless they had solid proof the recording was whole and unedited and every part was from that one conversation, securing a conviction would have been impossible.
Exactly, Joe.
It’s often easy for us TRFers to criticise the BHA and other governing bodies; but they do need to work on “solid proof”, possibility of guilt or even probability are not enough.
Value Is EverythingIt was appalling.
If it’s any consolation for lovers of karmic justice, Dwyer’s career has gone into nosedive mode since this all came out.
Sadly I doubt this came from trainers/owners taking any moral stance against Dwyer. The Tregoning yard is almost permanently out of form and his riding style is increasingly haphazard in a finish (see horrendous bumper cars effort on Gawdawpalin).
Actually, with 18 winners, a 2017 strike rate of 20% and a profit to a £ stake, Marcus Tegonning is having his best season for many a year. Although Dwyer hasn’t ridden a winner for him in that time.
Value Is EverythingThe BHA did have an investigation. This from the Guardian, dated Feb 5 2015:
The BHA too has now decided that no formal charges will arise from the recording, although both jockeys will be informed that their conduct was unacceptable at a meeting which it is understood Nick Rust, the new chief executive of the BHA, will also attend.
“Having interviewed both Dwyer and Mulrennan, and taken all reasonable steps available to investigate the matter, the British Horseracing Authority does not consider that the evidence available justifies charging either rider with misconduct under BHA’s Rules of Racing,” Robin Mounsey, the BHA’s spokesman, said on Thursday.
“While the BHA is conscious of the fact that neither rider admitted that the recording was a complete or wholly accurate record of the conversation that took place between them, BHA expresses grave disapproval that two licensed jockeys found it appropriate to hold any sort of conversation of the nature apparent from the recording.
“The BHA is disappointed that senior jockeys considered such a conversation appropriate on any terms and will speak further with both jockeys in due course. In the meantime, BHA reminds all jockeys of the standards of behaviour and integrity that are expected of them at all times.”
News to me steeplechasing lol.
Would this sort of behaviour be acceptable in other racing countries without the jockeys being punished eg Hong Kong?
Only a couple of months ago 2 South African jockeys were suspended for 3 months for just being on a boat and socialising with a bookmaker, meanwhile here jockeys are sponsored and work for bookmakers. What about the integrity of the sport and what sort of message does that send out?Securing a conviction for the offence is not necessary, it is not a court of law it is a governing body.
The BHA saw fit to state that both jockeys behaviour was unacceptable and they expressed grave disapproval that such a conservation should take place between two licensed jockeys and reminded all jockeys regards integrity and behaviour.A charge of bringing the game into disrepute would not looked out of place here with an appropriate suspension of licence. Could you really see either jockey appealing against such a decision? What would be their defence? Paul Struthers is too wise an old owl to allow that too happen and the resulting bad publicity that the case would receive.
Instead we have a weak BHA neatly sweeping everything under the carpet.
No wonder a high percentage of the general public in a recent survey think horse racing is one of the most corrupt sports.
The BHA did have an investigation. This from the Guardian, dated Feb 5 2015:
The BHA too has now decided that no formal charges will arise from the recording, although both jockeys will be informed that their conduct was unacceptable at a meeting which it is understood Nick Rust, the new chief executive of the BHA, will also attend.
“Having interviewed both Dwyer and Mulrennan, and taken all reasonable steps available to investigate the matter, the British Horseracing Authority does not consider that the evidence available justifies charging either rider with misconduct under BHA’s Rules of Racing,” Robin Mounsey, the BHA’s spokesman, said on Thursday.
“While the BHA is conscious of the fact that neither rider admitted that the recording was a complete or wholly accurate record of the conversation that took place between them, BHA expresses grave disapproval that two licensed jockeys found it appropriate to hold any sort of conversation of the nature apparent from the recording.
“The BHA is disappointed that senior jockeys considered such a conversation appropriate on any terms and will speak further with both jockeys in due course. In the meantime, BHA reminds all jockeys of the standards of behaviour and integrity that are expected of them at all times.”
News to me steeplechasing lol.
Would this sort of behaviour be acceptable in other racing countries without the jockeys being punished eg Hong Kong?
Only a couple of months ago 2 South African jockeys were suspended for 3 months for just being on a boat and socialising with a bookmaker, meanwhile here jockeys are sponsored and work for bookmakers. What about the integrity of the sport and what sort of message does that send out?Securing a conviction for the offence is not necessary, it is not a court of law it is a governing body.
The BHA saw fit to state that both jockeys behaviour was unacceptable and they expressed grave disapproval that such a conservation should take place between two licensed jockeys and reminded all jockeys regards integrity and behaviour.A charge of bringing the game into disrepute would not looked out of place here with an appropriate suspension of licence. Could you really see either jockey appealing against such a decision? What would be their defence? Paul Struthers is too wise an old owl to allow that too happen and the resulting bad publicity that the case would receive.
Instead we have a weak BHA neatly sweeping everything under the carpet.
No wonder a high percentage of the general public in a recent survey think horse racing is one of the most corrupt sports.
Last year a local jockey got lengthy suspension which in turn ended his career.
He made headlines recently as he is being filed for bankruptcy last month.
However, the local media feels one or two foreign jockeys are protected by the stewards and never being seriously questioned for some controversial rides.
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