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When was the last time The Derby winner ran in the Gold Cup the following year?

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    IanDavies
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    Serpentine’s entry evokes memories of the days when the Classics at three were but mere stepping stones to what was then the biggest race of all.

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    Cork All Star
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    If it is a quiz question, I posted this on the Gold Cup thread yesterday:

    “If Serpentine runs he will be the first Derby winner to take part in the Gold Cup since Blakeney in 1970.

    And if he wins, he would be the first horse to win the Derby at Epsom and the Gold Cup at Ascot since Persimmon (owned by the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII) in 1897!

    I remember seeing Persimmon’s stuffed head in the National Horse Racing Museum in Newmarket. Racing was very different in his day. After he won the Gold Cup, his next (and final) start was in the Eclipse!”

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    yeats
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    The memories and frequency can’t be that strong Ian if you can’t even remember the last time it happened ;-)
    Blakeney in 1970 & Persimmon 1897 :yes:

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    IanDavies
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    Cork All Star,

    It was indeed!

    I think Ocean Swell won The Derby in wartime at Newmarket and the Gold Cup the following year.

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    Ocean Swell did win both races and is the last horse to do so – but as you say his Derby was a war time substitute at Newmarket.

    Another point of trivia about the Gold Cup. The 1904 renewal forms a small part of the story of “Ulysses” by James Joyce, in which all the action takes place on 16th-17th June 1904.

    Some of the minor characters become convinced that the protagonist Leopold Bloom has backed the winner – Throwaway at 20/1 – and are annoyed when he does stand them a round of drinks. In fact, he had not backed the horse at all and had no interest in racing. The misunderstanding arose because one character asked to borrow his paper to look at the racing page and misheard him when Bloom told him to keep it because he was about to throw it away.

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    IanDavies
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    The first Gold Cup I remember watching was Sagaro’s third in 1977 – Peter O’Sullevan in his prime giving a great commentary IMO.

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