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I’m not sure for how long the old layout will remain available alongside but I thought I may as well begin to get used to the new. Early days but I feel it may be an improvement, however, its going to be hard to assimilate form anywhere near as quickly as necessary for my punting until I’ve had some time to adapt. The list of a horse’s previous runs being spread over a wider area is disorientating, there doesn’t seem to be a ‘Latest Shows’ facility and I can’t find the going/non runners link – if indeed such page still exists!
I have had a quick look and its mostly as I suspected. Nice new fancy bag with less toffee in it!
You have to sign in to see the link in the ‘Media Centre’ panel
First thoughts…….it looks very ‘busy’ with quite a few new features and lots of stuff bombarding the eyes. I’m getting on a bit and am naturally averse to any change but suppose I would get used to it
RP website same as normal here, and with no link in top banner.
Same here, whether signed in or not.
Keep refreshing or opening a new homepage window and before long you’ll catch the link instead of a bookmaker’s ad or whatever (whether you’re logged in or not). I have bookmarked both old and new sites homepages but RP won’t keep me logged into the old when logged into the new! I agree it is all a bit busy but could be better once familiar with it. While the option is still there I’ll study form on the old and pick quiet midweek meetings with few runners to gradually get used to the new. Still can’t find a story anywhere regarding when the old will disappear.
Not a fan at all of the new racecards pages, going to make picking winners of big field handicaps on the flat even harder. It’s not as easy on the eye and the form numbers are too small and slightly too far from the horses name(s). Seems like I’m being picky but when you’re going through 30 runners you need it to be as easy as possible as it’s vital you retain information to calculate value. The new layout makes it that bit harder.
I like the new fonts and colours but I dont use it for form, there are far better news reports and article, and I particularly like the addition of Prize values to the results page even before the races are run.
A lot of folk used to downloading the races and form, for offline study, will be shitting a brick. I cant understand why they have had to fiddle with the horses prize money earnings. another Problem for some. lots of the new additions that I wanted to look at were ” sign up now for unlimited access”. The team could have put up Betfair SP prices in the results section but I suppose they are not that independent from the sponsors and advertisers.
I do like the new format it is much brighter and set out well
I subscribe to members club but not the enhanced version which is just a tipping service
Not much has changed in that respect and although a few filters are available regards trainers, jockeys etc.there isn’t any more info available than previously
I have fedback on the horse stats regards distances being grouped together as this can be misleading.
I’m not after the current pedantic method of listing 1m, 1m 6y etc. a rounding up and down should suffice but to group distance runs such as 3m -3m 2f and list horse winning 3 times in that group is misleading.
Also I have partaken in a survey about a collateral form facility but as yet nothing has been developed.Very disappointed…especially as there is no longer a ‘Stats’ tab under each race.
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elcartero thers is a stats tab under each race but you have to be viewing on the pro card option and not the ordinary view
Many thanks, Steve….looks like I may have to subscribe. Previously this very useful info was free to view.
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I have just sent this missive to the Racing Post!….. here is my feedback on your new website.
HOME
Pros
1) More headline links to stories.
Cons
1) The headline links marked ‘members club’ are only available to ultimate, not essential, members so are a disappointing tease. Are you trying to pressurise essential customers into upgrading?
2) More importantly, there appears to be no one quick link to a day’s going and non runners – only to each separately at each meeting. A real nuisance.NEWS
Pros
1) That the ‘more news’ link takes you to a page that has even more headline links.
Cons
1) An even higher proportion of the headline links in this section are unavailable to essential members.STATISTICS
Pros
1) Better filters, and the larger type works here.
Cons
1) The big problem with the new site – bigger print means less lines of info fit the screen for an at a glance scan.RESULTS
Pros
1) Larger type works ok here too to some extent and results are nicely set out on source page.
Cons
1) Larger print means more scrolling and separate click required for analysis/quotes.CARDS
Pros
1) Quotes seem available to all members at present and spotlight comments sometimes available earlier.
Cons
1) On source page, no hover over (yet) so have to click to see type of race. More clicking and more awkward to see the time of the last Jumps race that is not a bumper.
2) The new layout for the card of a race is too busy and covers too large an area. There is unnecessary repetition of the spotlight comments and the layout of ‘selections’ is less concise. There are no ‘latest shows’/’price history so you cannot see how the market has been moving. Worse, settings are not saved – have to re-set on each log in. Overall: awful.TRAINER’S FORM
Cons
1) Spread over far too great an area for quick assessment of a trainer’s current form. Maximum info at a glance is much preferable to endless scrolling.JOCKEY’S RECORD
Cons
1) Some fancy filters but – an absolute joke – the headline wins & placings to rides by NHF/ Hurdle/Chase is restricted to current season rather than the last 5 seasons total. This will be particularly useless for Jumps in May and June! There is not the time to click and scroll for a rider’s season by season record and even if there were it is not broken down by type of race. I need to know at a glance a claimer’s 5-season stats by type of race to weigh up his/her effectiveness in each Jumps discipline.HORSE’S FORM
Pros
1) THE MOST IMPORTANT SECTION OF ALL! Notifications, e.g. moved yard, inserted into lifetime form on their own lines is helpful.
2) It’s easier to spot on which runs a horse was adorned with which accoutrement/s.
Cons
1) By now you should know what my main bugbear is here! The bigger type is SO inconvenient. A huge amount of excess scrolling is required when making an appraisal of the pattern of a horse’s lifetime form. That is distracting, the lines now cover far too wide an area. On the present site for the majority of horses you may have to press your down arrow once to the lot.
2) The lifetime record summary is not listed uniformly (NHF/H/C) but in order of most number of races per type.
3) The click for quotes is not as instant.
4) What’s so sad is that glorious potential opportunities have been missed in the redesign:
a) Alternate lines of form now have a white or pale blue background but how about introducing 6 backgrounds or 6 different font colours (Chase/Hurdle/NHF/PtoP/ Flat-grass/Flat AW)? This would be much better than the current filters as it would effectively mean you could see the filters as part of the whole.
b) Also, a chance to denote absences of over x no. of days (in the same way as you have inserted notifications) has been missed.CONCLUSION
Upon reflection, your ‘old’ website as it stands now is virtually perfect and I implore you to at least continue to run it indefinitely alongside the new.
If/when I’m forced to use the abhorrent new-look site it will be akin to pulling one’s own teeth! Time is vital to the serious punter when studying form and assessing wagers. It will take weeks to familiarise with the new site and even then it will not be as expedient to use as the old. The process may be too painful to continue investing as I doubt that, e.g. Timeform’s site, is a patch on your superb current site.Am pleasantly surprised. Key change and one that could make a big difference to their subscriber figures, at little cost to print copies which are declining anyway and will continue to do so, is to have the contents of the whole paper for about a fiver a week. This change alone is long overdue. They’ve messed about with different offers on the site, on iPad, in the print copy, probably never pleasing anyone in their determination to squeeze what they can out of every segment.
Once they go live I’ll upgrade to the full sub. A no-brainer at a fiver a week.
Well done RP. Not often I compliment them (well, never really) but this new site just might keep them alive. I do wish they’d print the full conditions for every race on a hide/show button.
I do like the new format it is much brighter and set out well
I subscribe to members club but not the enhanced version which is just a tipping service
Not much has changed in that respect and although a few filters are available regards trainers, ccaaallmmmm jockeys etc.there isn’t any more info available than previously
I have fedback on the horse stats regards distances being grouped together as this can be misleading.
I’m not after the current pedantic method of listing 1m, 1m 6y etc. a rounding up and down should suffice but to group distance runs such as 3m -3m 2f and list horse winning 3 times in that group is misleading.
Also I have partaken in a survey about a collateral form facility but as yet nothing has been developed.Is the membership any good? It is worth it? What does it entail? I assume one gets access to an online version of the paper. Get further states and news on bloodstock and stats on the mares (I note they have lengthy date on the progeny of sires) Thinking about subscribing
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