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  • #23089
    darren83
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    The two horses i like are TEAFORTHREE.8/1 won 4miler at Cheltenham is being trained for the race will have one more run before the big race

    And at a price i like LOST GLORY at 25/1 has form at Chepstow won a nice race last time as well and a big price fancy for me.

    #421069
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Does anyone know anything about Giles Cross? Has the Victor Dartnall yard got things back ticking over again?

    #421143
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    I’m not backing TFT if it runs in the Hennessy.

    #421536
    Avatar photoDanny
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    If the weights stay the same

    Le Beau Bai

    looks a cracking bet at 8/1,

    Won the race last year off a higher weight that he has currently, has also been placed in the race previously. Gutsily won a handicap hurdle of top weight after falling on his seasonal reappearance over the bigger obstacles, so he is in good order.

    Probably aimed at the race to??

    The other one that interests me is

    Quel Espirit

    , always thought he has potential but he’s high in the weights and unless his jumping has vastly improved he will struggle, yet that little voice in the back of my mind is telling me he’ll win on the bridle!

    #421676
    Grimes
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    Anyone know if Tidal bay is likely to run in it? If so, the 28 offered on Betfair (with Ladbrokes and PP on 10s) looks good. some class horses with big weights haven’t done badly in it.

    I don’t know what the Betfair price is now, as I wrote it several hours ago.

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    The front 3 in the betting look pretty solid here, but as per bloody usual, I’ve decided to look for a bigger price.

    Haven’t bet Bradley
    yet, but would be foolish to ignore him in any staying chases this year. Had a long look at Quartz De Thaix
    at 23’s. Followed him quite closely coupla years ago, and thought he had plenty of potential. He’s come back from a break, looking better than ever, and showed good battling qualities to win at Haydock last time. No reason why he shouldn’t have a say in things, especially with a good break between that race, and Chepstow. I have had a go on Triggerman
    at 150’s to 170’s, and 66’s each way. That’s more out of blind loyalty than anything else. He’s a horse I really like, and think his comeback run from injury wasn’t without hope. Not convinced a slog round Chepstow will particularly suit him, but couldn’t let him go unbacked at those odds. Like Bradley, another who I think will figure prominently in the big staying chases later in the season.

    Main bet (so far <!– s:roll: –>:roll:<!– s:roll: –> ) is on Royal Charm
    at 42’s to 65’s. Ultimately disappointing last season, but showed a lot more over hurdles at Chepstow last time out, albeit, that was over hurdles. Chepstows one of the few tracks where I really like them to have shown they can handle it, so that’s a plus for me. Due to run at Chepstow on Saturday, and I’ll pretty much know my fate after that race. Get the impression this has been the plan all along for him.

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    I quite like HEY BIG SPENDER for this, 20/1 seems a big price for a horse who is clearly a very promising stayer.

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    well le beau bias out for season through hind limb injury, ive gone for teaforfree

    vf

    #423808
    Grimes
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    Surely, if he runs, the 50 odd thousand is Tidal Bay’s for the taking. One Bay after another: Le Beau Bai and Tidal Bay.

    Famous last words.

    #423819
    TomBarkley87
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    Surely, if he runs, the 50 odd thousand is Tidal Bay’s for the taking. One Bay after another: Le Beau Bai and Tidal Bay.

    Famous last words.

    He won’t run, Tidal Bay is Lexus-bound. Get on :wink:

    #423972
    Grimes
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    Thanks, Boz.

    #423980
    Avatar photoWilts
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    Living in North Bristol just 15 mins drive from Chepstow i’ll be v surprised if the race takes place at all – the rain has been heavy and almost non-stop for 24 hours and that’s on top of the rain all week.

    #423984
    Grimes
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    Assuming it’s on, can someone tell me whether the next highest highest horse in the weights will go up as high as Tidal Bay was allotted? In other words 20lbs or so. Can’t remember exactly.

    If so, Arbor Supreme would be just 7lbs out of the handicap; and it’s not uncommon for such horses out of the weights to win those marathons. and he would still, I believe be 15lbs below his best mark. That’s a lot of weight to be free of over that distance for a horse that has run – admittedly only once -at a very fast RP speed rating. 132-135 or some such.

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    TomBarkley87
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    Assuming it’s on, can someone tell me whether the next highest highest horse in the weights will go up as high as Tidal Bay was allotted? In other words 20lbs or so. Can’t remember exactly.

    If so, Arbor Supreme would be just 7lbs out of the handicap; and it’s not uncommon for such horses out of the weights to win those marathons. and he would still, I believe be 15lbs below his best mark. That’s a lot of weight to be free of over that distance for a horse that has run – admittedly only once -at a very fast RP speed rating. 132-135 or some such.

    I could imagine Cappa Bleu taking up top weight what with Hold On Julio having just run and Quartz De Thaix slogging it at Cheltenham last week. If that were the case it would be a 20lb hike like you say. Arbor Supreme hadn’t looked the same horse since joining Jonjo, until his last run which showed the old spirit was still there. If he manages to get in and Jonjo’s actually managed to get him right I think he could have a say off a nothing weight in bottomless ground, it’s just a big if for a 10 year old who’s only won once in 4 years.

    #423989
    TomBarkley87
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    That ‘big if’ I was referring to was if Jonjo were to have him at his best. Sorry if that was unclear :roll:

    #424020
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    Living in North Bristol just 15 mins drive from Chepstow i’ll be v surprised if the race takes place at all – the rain has been heavy and almost non-stop for 24 hours and that’s on top of the rain all week.

    Would certainly have to be of huge concern. Looking at the going reports on the RP website at the moment, Chepstow is quoted as being

    HEAVY (Waterlogged)

    :?

    #424097
    BlackGold
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    Meeting washed out, but rescheduled for the 5th of January, providing the course dries out in time. Not hopeful though. So the BBC’s racing coverage ends with not even a whisper.

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