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August 8, 2009 at 13:02 #12316
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On several occasions I have noticed VC Bet cut a horse in price then change it back within minutes.
I saw it today again just now when they cut a horse from 12/1 to 10/1
8-minutes later she was back at 12/1……..later the same thing only this time the change around took 3 minutes.I look at another race and a horse goes
09:37 7/2
09:36 4
09:35 7/2
09:33 4Can anyone enlighten me on why this happens. Are they on some superduper computer system no one else has?
August 8, 2009 at 13:21 #243031I think VC bet have a system that follows the exchanges. It’s very rare they are top price on any horse.
August 8, 2009 at 14:33 #243041They are robotically linked to betfair prices. Or should I say robotically linked to be under BF prices.
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August 8, 2009 at 15:20 #243046Some amusing shenanegans by spoofers on Kingswinford with Blue Sq today. Generally a 3/1 chance but laid at 5’s by Blue Sq causing a 96% best price book having been spoofed out for about £40 on betfair.
August 8, 2009 at 23:25 #243067Bluesq and VC have the same program – Botsphere it’s called.
August 9, 2009 at 02:18 #243076Anonymous
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There have been somewhat unusual movements in Ladbrokes’s greyhound markets, too. I wandered in to my local shop a couple of times last week and pre-race markets seemed to indicate that 3 or 4 dogs in every race were being backed, and not all of them at ‘expected’ prices.
For instance (trap, opening price, new price, current price):
1. 6/1, 3/1, 5/1
2. 7/4, 6/4, 7/4
3. 4/1, 3/1, 7/2
4. 3/1, 3/1, 3/1
5. 5/1, 3/1, 9/2
6. 9/2, 4/1, 7/1Perhaps I’m missing something, but the shifts just don’t make any sense – 6/1 into 3/1 (using Trap 1 as an example) almost immediately after the market opened and then back out to 5/1 just as quickly.
August 9, 2009 at 02:37 #243077There have been somewhat unusual movements in Ladbrokes’s greyhound markets, too. I wandered in to my local shop a couple of times last week and pre-race markets seemed to indicate that 3 or 4 dogs in every race were being backed, and not all of them at ‘expected’ prices.
For instance (trap, opening price, new price, current price):
1. 6/1, 3/1, 5/1
2. 7/4, 6/4, 7/4
3. 4/1, 3/1, 7/2
4. 3/1, 3/1, 3/1
5. 5/1, 3/1, 9/2
6. 9/2, 4/1, 7/1Perhaps I’m missing something, but the shifts just don’t make any sense – 6/1 into 3/1 (using Trap 1 as an example) almost immediately after the market opened and then back out to 5/1 just as quickly.
Early prices to on track odds. Neither awfully scientific tbh. The notion that price movements on greyhound races have any relation to bets laid is an amusing one.
August 9, 2009 at 02:42 #243079Wasn’t Sittingbourne by any chance Fist?
August 9, 2009 at 09:52 #243093Some amusing shenanegans by spoofers on Kingswinford with Blue Sq today. Generally a 3/1 chance but laid at 5’s by Blue Sq causing a 96% best price book having been spoofed out for about £40 on betfair.
This is happening all the time – some pretty blatant spoofs being attempted each and every morning in an attempt to foil the bookies……and to be honest ,I think it is fair game – no one forces any firm to bet on any race and if they choose to copy what is on betfair for £2, then they deserve all they get.
August 9, 2009 at 11:20 #243098Bot spoofing has been around for years .. it’s worth working out how to do it, imo.
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