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Tylicki sues Gibbsons for £6m.

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  • #1533838
    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    As a pauper who does not have RP members, I am curious as to what this is all about? Can’t find it covered anywhere else.

    Any help appreciated brothers & sisters.

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    Freddy Tylicki is suing Graham Gibbons as he’s claiming Gibbons caused the fall that left him wheelchair-bound.

    This was the race in question https://www.racingpost.com/results/1079/kempton-aw/2016-10-31/660663

    Will be following this one with interest. Does anyone know if jockeys have liability insurance?

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    Wondered if this was the case. What a horrendous carry on. Gibbons has had a ‘colourful’ career in regard to alcohol, let alone this.

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Will be following this one with interest. Does anyone know if jockeys have liability insurance?

    I’m guesssing, but I can’t believe otherwise to be honest. The potential for lifetime bankruptcy at any moment following a mistake would probably leave us with very few jockeys if not.

    Mike

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    Generally, in sports, the people involved accept the risk that things might happen. Even a two footed tackle going for the knees in football wouldn’t have a successful case, because you accept the risk. I can’t see how this can win, unless there was something seriously untoward with the ride (horse or jockey doped, etc.) If you ride in a race you accept the risk that someone will fall in front of you, and the chance you’ll be brought down, and the chance of injury. I’d imagine the severity of the injury in this case is what’s pushing it, and he’s looking for someone’s insurance to latch onto and settle out of court with. Something that’s very possible, because no sport wants a legal decision setting precedent that injuries sustained playing the game are matters for the court, it’d kill pretty much every sport. This has to be looking to bring someone else into the case, and for someone to settle. And it could happen with how badly injured he is and the risk if the court sees the severity of the injury and rules with a “Poor lad” type judgment.

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    Details free to read Tatling

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/exclusive-graham-gibbons-being-sued-by-freddy-tylicki-in-6-million-court-case/481850

    It is unlikely Gibbons has £6m I would guess so it is the insurers they’ll be hoping to extract the cash out of. If he did win it I think the jockey’s insurance premiums would be taking a hike up, if they would be insurable at all.

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    #1533923
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    Yes thanks Cormack, they took it off ‘Members Only’ to read after lunch. How very generous!

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    Thanks for the replies re my query about the insurance.

    I have huge sympathy for Tylicki, but agree with FiftyP that the risk has to be accepted as an inherent part of participation. There’s only a hair’s breadth between bold riding and careless riding, and it’s inevitable that lines will be crossed in the heat of competition. Unless there is a blatantly reckless act such as riding while drunk or pushing an opponent off their horse, I think the risk of competition has to be accepted. That said, this is very easy for me to say as I’m not in Tylicki’s situation, and can see why he is testing the waters.

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    While having sympathy for Tylicki I believe the outcome could be decided on who hears the case and their understanding of racing.As pointed out above there are opinions as what’s regarded as ‘race riding’ and careless riding and where one draws the line.
    One thing’s for sure is that it will have a profound impact on the way the sport is viewed from the jockeys perspective.
    good luck to all

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    If he did win it I think the jockey’s insurance premiums would be taking a hike up, if they would be insurable at all.

    True, and while such severe injuries to jockeys are thankfully rare, to horses less so. Marsha sold for 6m gns … if Frankel had clipped heels in his last race and was killed, and another jockey was deemed by a civil court to be liable for the fall, what lost earnings damages would be awarded?

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    I can only assume that something might have come to light with the potential to make this more than a tragic sporting accident. If a jockey makes an error in the heat of a race, that’s one thing and, as others have said, all should be aware of possible consequences of participating in an inherently dangerous sport. However, if that jockey knowingly rides when unfit to do so due to whatever reason (medical condition, illness, drugs or alcohol, jet-lag even) there could well be a case to answer. You’d think that would be difficult to prove after so many years but somebody has obviously advised Tylicki that it’s worth bringing the case now.

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    Im with you Tonge, the first question I had was “why now?” especially as the incident was so long ago now. Completely sympathise and feel for Freddy but timing is what surprised me the most.

    #1534491
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    Agree with Tonge and Clints. Hope the timing isn’t just a result of the ambulance chasers finally convincing him.

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