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” Khaled here – now you know I’ve got two in…”
I wonder which one of his trio His Highness overlooked?
Gladiateur fact is sometimes stronger than fiction. I seem to be in the same category as tbracing. When you posted the result at 3.0 pm yesterday I must have been away in the clouds because I just thought it was your selections and did not connect you as the author of the thread and had forgotten the conditions. When I first saw the thread. It’s just that I come in here to relax and to see that name blasting out rather hits my mood. I was slow in getting involved here and when I delved in eventually I found it an excellent thread good enough for Thread of the year. I have troubled to take in video footage of a lot of the old races and have derived great pleasure from it. So a big
from me for your efforts here and on the 1000.The ball does not want to take away any thunder from your efforts or change the final result ( not ‘ arf ) but I may give it’s predictions a little later on after tea.
flatcapgamble…” Got no time to worry…lazy Sunday afternoon.
I have deleted my comments about the naming of threads – I can now see them in a different light…
flatcapgamble…Oh dear – hope he doesn’t come clean on the ball.
Tea turns into dinner and as a small Cognac is served the ball finally rolls…
1st…Frankel (2 lengths )
( stayed with the leading four or five the whole way. Extended just under a furlong out and The Brigadier went with him but couldn’t match the blistering final pace as Frankel extended. A clever race and it looked easy
2nd…Brigadier Gerard. ( 1.75 lengths) as above.
3rd Dancing Brave ( 1/2 length )
( The strong pace seemed to suit him and he remained about 7th and behind for the most part. Launched his attack after the bushes about 400 yards from the finish and made up an acre of ground.)4th Nijinsky..Mid division but found the pace too hot at the biz.end )
Remaining places a blur…
Well Frankel beat all of Secretariat’s splits (Big Red as he was known won the Belmont by 31 lengths ) admittedly the latter horse running over longer distances. Cecil mentioned Tudor Minstrel and Blushing Groom as possible challengers. Brigadier Gerard’s one blemish against Roberto in an 18 race career lauded him best horse of the last century.
The Brave’s 42 mile an hour blistering last furlong at Longchamp for a track record – beating the Derby winner Bering who had recently set a track record stays long in the memory and set his penultimate race as Dancing Grave into true perspective.Nijinsky cannot be faulted for his record and well won Triple crown. The perfect horse.
Well near to Gladiateur’s result.
flatcapgamble…I didn’t know this cursed ball 🗿 – also gave commentaries ? I’m having me doots.
The power and glory and ultimate crown in this spectacular 2000 remake of the biggest turf rock of the ages, goes not to the unnatural pent up force that is Frankel, but rather to Gladiateur his creator, who prised F’s majestic much wondered at limbs away from the fattenning up fillies and back to his ultimate groundbreaking best on the heath.
Who was the Prince who sadly couldn’t trouble the two faves in this rave of the age ? ‘Hardwood’ had a stone faced famously bloody row with Pat in the pre-race changing room when Eddery informed him in no uncertain terms ” I will leave him as late as Hell”.
Well the Prince has to be the unleashing of the pent up prolific final two furlong power that was Dancing Brave and the surprise he could subject on any contender. This Longchamp A lister who had a ukranian ballet dancer as sire and little known mare Drone tantalisingly scripted into his grandma lineage was not undefeated but much underrated in fact even better than Bogart, and when the cameras eventually rolled, made the beautifully formed beast that is Bering, look like a bad B movie remake of the paranoia of Raging bull mixed in with the patience of a Paradise lost.
flatcapgamble….I just can’t 🎌
“… made the beautifully formed beast that is Bering, look like a bad B movie remake of the paranoia of Raging bull mixed in with the patience of a Paradise lost.”
It’s often overlooked that Bering finished that Arc on three legs, having chipped a bone in his knee at some point.
Smacks of sour grapes to me. I think Mrs C Head just couldn’t accept the fact that her supreme champion was beaten by phenomenon.
Lets look to the future
Pinatubo will blow them away in the 2000 Guineas.
I am praying to get 6 to 4 on the day.
I will wait all year to back him.
They may front run him or hold him up.
No matter what happens he will still win.His delayed appearance will surely have strengthened up !
Anybody want to give me 7 to 4 ? No run no bet
I doubt it very much
Colosus
Well Glad that could well be true, but a horse being packed off to to a highly valuable stud career with an unbeaten three year year old record and a blemish could be sent off first to a dream factory to come up with an excuse or two 🏦 🏦. Can anyone confirm that ? Did anyone see Bering limp home after beating our own extremely smart Triptych by 1.5. ?
I had split loyalties as I listened to the race in a small wetteburo in a small side street off the Zeil in Frankfurt. There were no pictures just a crackle and a high energy german voice that almost lost itself when the Brave exploded into gear. I had had a love affair with Acatenango who matched the Brigadier with an unbeaten thirteen race win record as a three year old, but in the end, well I was an out and out Brave fan and I walked away from the shop bursting with pride and pleasure. Starkey ended up with a chain of eight massage parlours and Harwood became a car salesman when he handed in his licence.
When the Brave crossed the big pond to take on the highly prized Turf, bystanders saw a clod of something thrown up from the dirt track that was crossed during the race to hit the horse in the eye – Harwood would have none of it, merely reflecting that the horse had lost pounds in travelling over the Atlantic. He took the biggest risk that the horse’s sheer brilliance would pull him through and compensate. He admitted afterwards, it was one of his biggest mistakes and surmised it reflected badly on him as a trainer. Miesque got the double up the following two years with two Breeders mile wins and was the first to do it – but she was prepared better and was controversially on Bute.
I never disagreed with Smith’s downgrading the Brave two points to 138 – Frankel deserved to be higher. Swinburn thought the Brave was harder done by than his own Shergar ( dropped from 138 to 136) and felt that The Brave and Frankel should have shared top honours both on 140. I was just in awe of the power of Frankel but much more excited before the Brave ran because of the manner of his winning. I backed Frankel only once on his last and fourteenth race just for the memory 1-4 if I remember right. The ground was a bit of an issue as there was moisture in it. He never tackled soft ground but can’t think it would have troubled him.
flatcapgamble….It’s been rumoured, if you read the conspiracy columns, that after Pip had that unfortunate Range Rover accident a little while back the Queen punished him by insisting he quarantined himself for fourteen days in a very large fish tank. The problem was when she came to get him out he point blank refused – submerging to lie and sulk on the bottom only to suddenly swim up to the surface and shout – ” Come on in Lizzie the water’s lovely ! ”
The whole plan must be kept simple.
Bust your nut to win a right few bob before or ever run the 2000 Guineas.
I have pulled many strokes in my day but my dream is to have a tank of bookies money on the “invincible” Pinatubo.Lets say they run, they will form a book mainly based on the BF market. If he hits 6/4 in the shop I am going all in.
They can keep their 72% handicaps when they return.
40 to bleeding 60 handicaps. Class 6’s or the odd Class 7’s races.
Investment funds give you an average 1.5% return per year on your investment.
Pinatubo at 6 to 4 all in..150 % of your money in less than 5 minutes.
He is a machine !I don’t play poker but I understand the meaning of all in.
don’t forget to rub the ducks back when he runs away with the 2000G
Colosus
PINATUBO 1st the rest nowhere Can’t wait for the 2000 Guineas to be run Colosus
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...He went and did it didnee ?
kicked me Maaf numbers into touch
made a mockery of me models.Right whose counting
stack my wack
everything on BLACKDo you feel lucky ?
Not leaving it to luck ‘arry
Get me some good Jelly and
an armed mexican guard to get me out
of this stinkin’ hole of a casino
THE MOMENT I BLOW
THE BLOODY DOORS OFF
THE TWO FOUSANDCocoa boss !
flatcapgamble…zzzz ⏰
This Longchamp A lister who had a ukranian ballet dancer as sire and little known mare Drone tantalisingly scripted into his grandma lineage
Is this a freudian slip gamboller? Drone was certainly not a mare but an immensely handsome and supremely fertile stallion, whose delightful children included the stunning Navajo Princess, dam of Dancing Brave
Or were you referring to Beaune, Bering’s dam
Drone and Beaune, yes indeedy
An American bred and yes a colt, if you say so Drone. I tried to google it to re-check but came up with buzzing metallic insects. – so Dancing’s Grandad. Thanks for the correction. A lot more traffic today in the capital – about 15-20% more.
flatcapgamble…People are probably fed up staying in and twitching the curtains and being forced into a poor re-make of 1984. ” Hallo I want to snitch on number 29 somebody went in I don’t know, and they are sat on the sill, watching me watching them through the nets.”
from me for your efforts here and on the 1000.
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