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Are there any trainers you particularly support? Nichols (especially), Skelton, Mulholland, and I also keep an eye on David Bridgewater, partly because I loved The Giant Bolster.
Unless there are compelling reasons I avoid Jonjo, Tizzard and Fry (and Shantou)Keep an eye out for George Boughey, I think he’s very much an up-and-coming
young trainer. He could have a couple at Ascot this week.Mostly agree with gingertipster but I do avoid Henderson and Stoute.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysI agree with BigG, Boughey seems like one to watch.
Henry de Bromhead is definitely one to support too :)
-Jade
Time flies like a banana, flies are like arrows...fruit?.. wait, no....
I’ve never been able to fathom Alistair Whillans or Donal Whillans.
Nick Henderson’s handicappers, never cracked them at all and pick the losers but not the winners.
Struggle to work out Tim Easterby who trains a fair number of winenrs but difficult to tie down a pattern.Jonjo O’Neill was always a no-no, but seemed to have cracked it with his handicappers over the past year.
Roger Fell is one of my favourites, very good with handicappers making a quick return to the track.
I think James Moffatt runs a canny operation up there in Cartmel.
Over the past 5 seasons, including this one, Moffatt’s strike rate is a steady 11% from 10 winners per season. Supporting his every runner during this period, a blindly devoted punter would have secured a profit of £112 to a £1 stake.
It’s difficult for the average backer to work out when JM’s horses are going to win. (OK, you could say that about any stable.) From time to time he will have 3 runners in a race, normally a handicap hurdle and even more normally at Cartmel. I recall this happening a few years ago when JM put up Richard Johnson on a well-backed horse, but who should win the race but Charlotte Jones on a much less fancied competitor. This is not an unusual occurrence.
Plus, many of his charges seem to win unsupported in the market. Where stable money is down, I’m wondering how he contrives to get it on.
My sole prediction for this season is that JM’s 10-y-o Golden Town will win a race. Exactly when remains unclear to me.
On a tangential note, Charlotte Jones has 5 year figures of 26 winners from 145 rides at 18% with a profit of £194 to a £1 stake. I’m sure that Jones would have ridden Alqamar if that horse had not been scratched from today’s Ascot Stakes. I suspect that JM withdrew because he thinks Alqamar can go straight to the Ebor without a prep race.
This is a shrewd operation and I follow it closely, without having many wagers for reasons stated above.
Good thread. Not enough threads on trainers form and overall abilities I feel
I’m not huge on the flat but I like Roger varian.
Jumps.Nichols of course but more even about the rest although Kim Bailey has been outperforming for a while now
Always happy to ignore my local trainer Tim Vaughan’s runners.Seems to have taken a marked step backwards in the last few years.
Tristan Davidson on the other hand seems to be going places and would echo the Jimmy Moffat shout from Seasider.
Southern yards I like are Lucy Wadham and Alex Dunn.My father follows Richard Fahey religiously. The number of times he comes up with the goods.. cross the card accumulators etc…. very often puts my form study to shame.
Look at him in the first at Ascot today. Very few runners at the main meeting but by god they need looking at. 14/1 Perfect Power… Needless to say, I ignored it…
I’ve always followed the Chapple-Hyam’s on the flat. Think they are excellent at placing their horses and although it is a small operation they put some of the bigger yards to shame.
Tom Lacey over jumps I also think is very good.
Mel Rowley is one that I began to follow at the back end of last NH season. Time will tell and it might just be that she had some very well handicapped horses but she has been firing in the winners.
One to avoid for me is Twister, very average trainer.
Stoute seems to be very much on the way down on the flat
Balding very much on the way up and establishing himself as one of the better trainers in the UK if not the best given the ammo he gets compared to some others
I don’t like Mark Johnston or Mick Channon much. Probably unfairly, but I always feel their horses have two very different ways of running.
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I’ve always thought the opposite with Mark Johnston. He’s ‘what you see is what you get’, but for that I’d not favour his runners over any other as there are no significant patterns that give an advantage. Conversely if his horses are favoured by form then I’m happy.
I’d have Mark Johnston as one of the best trainers around but definitely not one for punters.
Willie Haggas is much more a punters trainer.
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