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I’m saddened ro read not many are turning up at Kempton as it could put an end to AW racing there, something I hope never happens
I’m the complete opposite of Jim, I hope that even less people turn up to watch this dross, then all the other tracks considering inflicting this garbage on us might have second thoughts and stick to turf racing.<br>I accept that some people like it, and it certainly provides an alternative when the real racing has been abandoned, but we’ve got more than enough all weather tracks now in my opinion.
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Quote: from davidjohnson on 2:41 pm on Nov. 27, 2006[br]Reet Hard
You don’t read the Dail Mail by any chance do you?<br>
DJ<br>Nice to see I’ve been promoted from Sun reader :biggrin:; though I haven’t a clue what your on about?
With an ever burgeoning population of moderate-to-poor horses owned by those of limited financial means (relatively speaking) it would seem pertinent to ask: are there sufficient resources to ensure all these horses can look forward to a comfortable retirement once their racing days are over?
I use the phrase "owned by those of limited financial means" advisedly as it seems logical that many fitting that profile do not have the facilities at home – stabling/acres of land – in which to keep a horse in the manner it has become accustomed to once it has left the trainer’s yard. So it seems equally logical that a growing number of ageing geldings will need to be re-homed. Is there a limitless supply of landed folk who can cope with the not inconsiderable needs of a retired thoroughbred? Or will we see the RSPCA and other animal charities as overwhelmed with unwanted horses as they currently are with dogs and cats; otherwise healthy and happy animals ultimately awaiting the inevitable syringe of pentobarbital or in the nags’ case sedation with etorphine followed by the friendly bullet.
Conversely I suppose it could be argued that the financially constrained owner could become rather more attached to his/her horse(s) than do those who own many, and will therefore be all to eager to ensure a comfortable retirement for his/her horse. I really don’t know.
I most certainly am not saying that all owners of moderate beasts don’t care about the ultimate fate of their horses, the vast majority will ensure the best for them; but the minority who don’t or more likely can’t care for them will (of necessity?) increase.
So while all this talk of year-round ‘twilight’, ‘floodlit’, six-meetings-on-summer-weekdays, may be manna from heaven to the bookmakers, BHB levy forecasts, exchange traders and problem gamblers it’s as well to remember that these billions of recirculating pounds are generated by a sentient animal and not just a funny name and number cloth.
Their fate is in our hands and we owe them: escalating horse population = escalating welfare problem = escalating cruelty
Seemed equally dead bums on seats wise at Kempton today for a traditionally timed meeting. Even watched a bit as I could quite happily listen to Long Eddie discussing the form of the donkeys on Scarborough South Bay beach
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I’m not sure how many racegoers will bother to attend this afternoon’s twilight fare at Wolves (not too many I’d have thought) but an enterprising pricing policy of £5 premier and £1 grandstand is a stark contrast to the greedy metropolitan London tracks.
Empty Wallet<br>the first 6 races at Folkestone yesterday produced an average overound of 113.3%.<br>Guess what Kempton showed 129.9% <br>This is what happens when the foxes are given the oppotunity to look after the chickens.
Average at Folk was 1.46 per runner <br>(6 races)
Avearage at Kempton was 2.13% per runner (5 races)
a difference of 0.67% – FFS, do you expect bookies to work for now’t or worse still, at a loss?
The bookies have costs like License, rent for pitches, levy payments
do you or i incur such costs?
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(Edited by empty wallet at 8:54 pm on Nov. 28, 2006)
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EW
Let’s all support rip-off racing; after all, we’re only in it for the bookies!:biggrin:
reet
Yours and everyone else’s concern for betting shop punters being ripped off is to be admired, but the only people you’re really concerned about is yourself
(Edited by empty wallet at 10:35 pm on Nov. 28, 2006)
EW<br>I guess the bookmakers standing at Folkestone then dont have the standing charges yet a joint at Folkestone is worth a lot more than one on the Kempton aw track.
no punters betting =  bookies taking no money, uncompetitive prices = high % books
punters betting = bookies taking money, competitive prices = low % books
The market is working how it should,  the bookies are only reacting to market forces, the Kempton on course bookies are trying to make a profit from weak markets, it’s not their fault no one is turning up to create competition in the market, as Pru stated earlier – you need both sides to create a competitive market
The SP is being compiled  from these weak on course markets – this is the problem and is something that the SP returners need to look at
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:22 am on Nov. 29, 2006)
Yours and everyone else’s concern for betting shop punters being ripped off is to be admired, but the only people you’re really concerned about is yourself<br> empty wallet Posted on 9:59 pm on Nov. 28, 2006
<br>Surely, without losing punters there can’t be winning punters?
Kempton on Saturday kicks off five minutes after the last race at sandown starts. In fact should be able to see the lights on at kempton from the stand at Sandown…strange really
On the subject of admission prices Kempton will be free on the 6th of Jan and £1 a week Sun (10th) to try and attract a crowd.
Quote: from Grey Desire on 6:20 pm on Nov. 29, 2006[br]On the subject of admission prices Kempton will be free on the 6th of Jan and £1 a week Sun (10th) to try and attract a crowd.
About time. Why not before?
Quote: from reet hard on 2:16 pm on Nov. 27, 2006[br]
Quote: from clivex on 11:50 am on Nov. 27, 2006[br]<br>I avoid it but there again I am still baffled as to why people are getting so wound up about it. No one has explained to me what actual harm this does…
A new breed of owners and trainers arising, no longer interested in the pursuit of excellence, but geared up to own, train, and run horses specifically to land a touch.
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<br>What planet you on, its been like that for the twenty five years i’ve been watching. What’s worse is that the authorities allow it to continue.
Hokkaido has just announced that it will discontinue sand racing at year end:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/sc … Y04002.htm
talent looking for new home (click a blue square):
http://www.banei-keiba.or.jp/digest/index.php3
best regards
wit
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