The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

Thoughts on St Leger

Home Forums Horse Racing Thoughts on St Leger

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 24 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #2197
    simmo
    Member
    • Total Posts 22

    Anyone any thoughts on the St Leger cant have Boscabel , Thought Mahler ran a good trial but o briens also got Soldier of fortune , macarthur ( just the type to come good ) and Mount Nelson surely a non stayer chuck in Aqaleem and Arabian Gulf could be fascinating read that Lucarno will not be running

    #66385
    aidanldrebin
    Member
    • Total Posts 171

    I personally think Anton Chekhov would be an interesting bet if turning up. His pedigree suggests he should stay and he could emerge as a contender.

    #66386
    seabird
    Participant
    • Total Posts 2923

    How about All My Loving, is she entered?

    Colin

    #66387
    aidanldrebin
    Member
    • Total Posts 171

    I don’t think the entries have been confirmed have they? Yes All My Loving would be interesting as she looked she wasn’t the fastest in her last two starts.

    #66388
    simmo
    Member
    • Total Posts 22

    Another possibles then from o brien All my loving would be interesting with the allowance

    #66389
    Flash
    Member
    • Total Posts 1144

    Authorized. Eclipse, King George, St Leger, Arc.

    Win those four and he goes down as a legend of the turf. Would be an achievement to rival a triple crown win.

    Won’t happen I know but its what I’d like to see.

    #66390
    aidanldrebin
    Member
    • Total Posts 171

    Wouldn’t we all Flash. The Leger has lost its sparkle over the years as horses that win are primarily NH stallions so no one bothers with it anymore. Im sure Sheikh Mohammed has it as a must have on his requirements list!

    #66391
    Friggo
    Member
    • Total Posts 1593

    I’ve not had a really good think yet, but from the Derby you have to say that the first two home looked to be finishing strongest, especially EM who seemed to be staying on really well. Authorized will have bigger fish to fry I’d imagine, but I’m surprised that EM isn’t quoted at all in books for the St Leger.

    #66392
    Gareth Flynn
    Participant
    • Total Posts 583

    Eagle Mountain is a very short price for the Irish Derby. If he wins that, there’s no chance that hell end up in the Leger.

    #66393
    Friggo
    Member
    • Total Posts 1593

    You’re right, but I fail to see why winning the Irish Derby should completely and utterly rule him out of the St Leger. If he continues to run over 12f, he’ll most likely be trounced by Authorized each time their two paths cross. IMHO, he’ll stay the extra 2f, so why not go for a Classic win against a field in which he’ll have probably beaten most of the big players already?

    #66394
    FlatSeasonLover
    Participant
    • Total Posts 2068

    Because it may perversely decrease his stud value and it holds little prestige now if was guessing Friggo.

    #66395
    Avatar photonon vintage
    Member
    • Total Posts 1268

    Indeed FSL.

    I believe that the only reason to run a Derby winner in the St Leger nowadays would be in the hope that it fades and finishes well beaten, thus proving that it doesn’t stay and therefore must be a faster horse rather than a plodder.

    Sadly, proven stamina beyond 10f for a stallion is a bit of an albatross in this day and age.

    #66396
    benbdb
    Member
    • Total Posts 164

    indeed you all make very valid points regarding stallions and more is the pitty in my humble opinion. with regards the leger though of the derby runners i think Aqaleem looks the most likely type even if EM were to show up. EM was ridden for 2nd in the derby once authorized had flown and had aqaleem tapped for toe rather than stamina in my opinion.

    that is of course assuming authorized doesnt show, which he wont!

    #66397
    clivex
    Member
    • Total Posts 3420

    Would appear (looking at todays times) that Aqaleem is being aimed squarely at the leger.

    Gordon stakes followed by the Voltiger

    #66398
    Gareth Flynn
    Participant
    • Total Posts 583

    Without even getting into the Leger-is-bad-for-stud-value thing, he would be much more likely to run in the Irish Champion Stakes, which is on the previous week this year.

    #66399
    andyod
    Member
    • Total Posts 4012

    Surely the national hunt needs the good staying horses(St.Leger winners) as stallions.They upgrade the hunter type mares.

    #66400
    Avatar photoYoung Mick
    Member
    • Total Posts 203

    I reckon if Mahler runs he’ll win it. I backed him in the Derby but I think it was on the sharp side for him as he needs a test of stamina, he got that on his next outing and he won quite impressively.

    He’s guaranteed to stay the distance and will relish the ground whether it’s firm or heavy  

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 24 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.