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Was at Kempton Park today and that is the best hurdler I’ve seen in the flesh since Night Nurse.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Was at Kempton Park today and that is the best hurdler I’ve seen in the flesh since Night Nurse.
He’s nowt special to look at Ian,granted he has an engine but he’s only a small horse and is no chaser in the making for sure.I guess you haven’t seen
My Tent or yours
in the flesh then?
The New One was my biggest bet for that reason today. Its a medium sized horse but powerful built. Bobs Worth a smilar type.
I saw My Tent Or Yours win the Betfair Hurdle – I like him, he’s decent.
But The New One looks an exceptional Champion Hurdle prospect to me.
Tbh, I don’t think My Tent Or Yours would get anywhere near him.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I had my second biggest bet of the season on The New One at Aintree and I’m still gutted that Zarkandar just out-toughed him that day. As usual there always seems to be some "ham shanker", who can’t read a race for toffee, who is shouting "Ga’an The New One, ya beauty, ya stoatir, get in there ya dancer" when it was obvious that he wasn’t going to get there. I reckon bookies should install a "ringpiece detector" which sends out a Shepherd’s Crook to remove these nonces by the neck and out the front door in order to let everyone else enjoy the closing stages in peace.
The New One is in from 8/1 to 5/1 now and I reckon he’s a better bet than Our Conor and the aging Hurricane Fly. My Tent Or Yours is the one I’d be worried about as he travels with a purpose that looks ominous for the opposition.
Size in horses doesn’t work like the male casting area for a blue movie. Bigger isn’t always better!
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Yeah, this isn’t Sprinter Sacre over the smaller obstacles but he looks the one to beat in this division.
2 miles at Cheltenham in good or soft won’t be a problemI’m a big fan of The New One. I love his attitude to racing. He will be a major player at Cheltenham next March.
However the horse who made his racecourse re-appearance at Naas today ( on the level ), finishing fourth, may prove an extra and more difficult obstacle that even The New One may find a lot tougher to negotiate.
Our Conor is my idea of the 2014 Champion Hurdle winner.
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Already stated on the Cheltenham thread that Our Conor cannot win under Danny Mullins. Owner dispensed with one of the small number of top class jockeys in Ireland and replaced him with a total liability. By the time everyone realises what a mistake he has made there will not be much of a horse left to salvage. Had a nasty feeling at one stage he was even going to get him brought down in yesterday’s race.
Imposing or not until My Tent Or Yours proves it around Cheltenham I wouldn’t touch him. He had every opportunity to beat Champagne Fever at the Festival and didn’t. No reason at this stage to suggest that he will do any better against stiffer opposition.
Hurricane Fly looked beat last year and another year on it seems likely he will need to better that performance and although he will probably rack up a few easy wins beforehand that seems unlikely.
The New One is the one to beat at this stage although I would share the concern that his jumping needs improvement.
There was a thread about TNO started after his Warwick victory. I took some stick there for saying I thought he’d win at least one Gold Cup, probably more. That deadly turn of foot he has would make me think again about him staying the GC trip, but in time he might do.
I’ve no doubt he’ll make a top ‘chaser, and I think he’ll be unbeaten for some time. He’ll win the 2014 Champion Hurdle if he lines up fit and well.
I always think that a Champion Hurdler has to be just that; a slick, neat economical jumper. The one that could have proved the exception was Sizing Europe.So I’d still rather have a horse like TNO over MTOY’s. And I still like Jezki who was a run short last year for the race.
Already stated on the Cheltenham thread that Our Conor cannot win under Danny Mullins. Owner dispensed with one of the small number of top class jockeys in Ireland and replaced him with a total liability. By the time everyone realises what a mistake he has made there will not be much of a horse left to salvage. Had a nasty feeling at one stage he was even going to get him brought down in yesterday’s race.
The race in question turned into a messy affair at one stage and Mullins certainly didn’t do the horse any favours by being slow to react. However, the horse looked burly and unfit, despite which, he ran an adequate race.
It will be interesting to see how Mullins and Our Conor perform on their first outing over hurdles this season. If the jockey can’t steer this machine over eight hurdles to victory, then yes, it’s time for Barry Connell to once again review the situation – or for Dessie Hughes to put his foot down.
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Already stated on the Cheltenham thread that Our Conor cannot win under Danny Mullins. Owner dispensed with one of the small number of top class jockeys in Ireland and replaced him with a total liability. By the time everyone realises what a mistake he has made there will not be much of a horse left to salvage. Had a nasty feeling at one stage he was even going to get him brought down in yesterday’s race.
The race in question turned into a messy affair at one stage and Mullins certainly didn’t do the horse any favours by being slow to react. However, the horse looked burly and unfit, despite which, he ran an adequate race.
It will be interesting to see how Mullins and Our Conor perform on their first outing over hurdles this season. If the jockey can’t steer this machine over eight hurdles to victory, then yes, it’s time for Barry Connell to once again review the situation – or for Dessie Hughes to put his foot down.
Unfortunately (in this case) it is the money man who calls the tune and realistically he isn’t going to admit to making a massive mistake. Why would anyone with a modicum of sound judgement want to replace Cooper with Mullins in the first place? It might be possible to get away with replacing a top jockey on an established performer but this is a relatively inexperienced novice stepping straight into championship class. Unless he has something like a stone in hand he will need all the help he can get. I have wasted a few quid ante-post but it is the horse who is going to be the real sufferer.
I was there too and, yes, he was very impressive. I certainly think he’s the second-seasoner to beat. (MTOY has chinks in his armour, OC will only be five)
However, I can’t help but wonder whether we’re being a touch to quick to write off Hurricane Fly. Yes, he’s not getting any younger, but he was utterly unstoppable last season, we don’t have any actual evidence that he’s lost it and, providing he can keep fit (which is a big if with The Fly) he’s still the one to beat.
TNO for the 2015 Champion Hurdle. Or the Arkle.
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Where did I say he is a Gold Cup horse? Where did I say he would ever make a chaser necessarily?
Rock On Ruby won a tactically-run Champion Hurdle and had form at sharp Kempton, whereas The New One was dropping to 2m and trying to win right-handed for the first time.
So I’m not having it that it was an insufficient stamina test for the runner up, if anything it suited him more than the winner plus he had the run of the race.
Despite all that, The New One shows an amazing turn of foot for a jumper to beat a horse rated 170 ten lengths with a horse rated 130 40 lengths back in third.
If runner up and third are below par, they are so by identical margins.
I don’t think so and a rating of 180 for The New One, who will only get better as he rises six, does not look inappropriate to me.
Hurricane Fly is rated 175, My Tent Or Yours is rated 160 and Our Connor, a tame fourth when made 5/2 favourite to take advantage of a lenient old Flat mark, is rated 161.
Horse racing is about more than ratings, but this is why I like….THE NEW ONE.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Ian, you mentioned neither ‘chaser nor Gold Cup. All I was saying was that there was a thread about him quite some time ago in which I said I thought him a horse of the highest class with enormous potential.
Of course, had he been beaten on Sunday, you’d not have heard a whisper from me about such a thread
There was a thread about TNO started after his Warwick victory. I took some stick there for saying I thought he’d win at least one Gold Cup, probably more. That deadly turn of foot he has would make me think again about him staying the GC trip, but in time he might do.
I’ve no doubt he’ll make a top ‘chaser, and I think he’ll be unbeaten for some time. He’ll win the 2014 Champion Hurdle if he lines up fit and well.
I don’t think he has the scope to be a top class chaser. Looks a hurdler through and through to me.
And you must surely understand why that original comment was met with some criticism, although that often masquerades as derision.
I’m looking forward to watching Milarrow later !
There was a thread about TNO started after his Warwick victory. I took some stick there for saying I thought he’d win at least one Gold Cup, probably more. That deadly turn of foot he has would make me think again about him staying the GC trip, but in time he might do.
I’ve no doubt he’ll make a top ‘chaser, and I think he’ll be unbeaten for some time. He’ll win the 2014 Champion Hurdle if he lines up fit and well.
I don’t think he has the scope to be a top class chaser. Looks a hurdler through and through to me.
And you must surely understand why that original comment was met with some criticism, although that often masquerades as derision.
I’m looking forward to watching Milarrow later !
Well, nobody’s above criticism, but as I think I said on the thread, I don’t say things like that lightly.
He’s certainly not the classical ‘chaser in looks and scope but a superb engine (someone mentioned Bobs Worth) makes up for an awful lot. My doubt now about the Gold Cup, as mentioned, is that horses with such a deadly turn of foot at the GC trip are rare. And I was slightly disappointed that he couldn’t outstay Zarkandar – huge performance though that was.
But he still has some maturing to do. His hurdling is improving race by race (touch wood) he was clumsy at times in his early races.
Anyway, I haven’t yet given up on his GC chances
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