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Bin57again,
I`m no expert on doggie form, If I had any pointers it would be to try and work out how the race is likely to be run, whats likely to lead, if there are a few (say 3 or 4) front runners in a race, it’s likely they may get in each others way, leaving the race open for a closer. Vice Versa, it’s possilbe there is only 1 front runner and this could lead to bunching in behind leaving the front runner clear. After you have worked out the likely patern/pace and seen it in action it should aid future punting.
I only specialise in sprint handicaps (horses) on the turf flat. If you have any questions on that then I`m your man. Otherwise I can only give ideas/suggestions.
But – roulette players don’t apply the same philosophy. They bet and bet and bet on anything and everything. Black, odd, even, high, low, you name it. They lose. But often they’ve been up for a while. That’s what keeps them there. With racing you have a few minutes to appreciate you’ve lost £50. Not with the wheel. It drains you so fast.
Hi Bin, those are your words, not mine….. hey, you aint old Snowy come back for another fight are you ??… hehehe…. Hello Snowy, where are you…….<br>OK, back to the above….. with all due respect Bin, if you played Roulette as stated above, the wheel would drain you fast, it would chew you up and spit out the laces, that is most definitely NOT the way to play.I would assume that most punters would equate betting on the wheel in the same manner as betting on the GG’s, ie, you have to watch for patterns (study form if you prefer that phrase). You do not bet on every spin and take pot luck that you’ve guessed correctly, Snowman and myself have gone over most of this at an earlier juncture, and although we didn’t always see "eye 2 eye", we were both in full agreement over two fundamental points….<br>1) It is far easier to make money betting short on Roulette that it is betting short on the horses…..<br>2) It IS possible to make profits from playing Roulette…<br>OK,those are the only two points that we need think about at the moment.<br>The way to play the numbers game is to play when the time is right, NOT every spin, you need to place your chips down when everything seems to be in your favour. I would never ever think of betting on REDS/BLACKS… ODDS/EVENS… they are unsafe bets, but give me the DOZENS, I love ’em. They are exactly the same as your favourite COLUMNS, but I have to admit, I would play the columns a different way to you, nevertheless, COLUMNS are also a superb betting medium for the reasons you stated…… if COLUMN 1 has been hit for, say 4, consecutive spins…. the bet HAS to be COLUMNS 2 and 3….. and you’ll be correct MORE times than you would if your trying to pick the same sorta odds on the GG’s…….. I think thats about covered it….. its good to see this thread spring back to life again, I thought it was dead and buried……. mmmm….. I wonder if the smileys are working yet…..<br>:biggrin: :biggrin:
MrE
Hi Mr E<br>No, I’m not Snowman and I’m more in your camp than his (after all, I do play!) but I take what you’re saying. Unfortunately, I don’t have much time to spend in casinos. I used to. Man, I loved it. Have to satisfy myself with the online ones now (do I feel a punch coming?). Sorry, E, you’re probably a purist. I just wanna make some pocket money. <br>Sailing – I’ll definitely come back to you on the flat. "Specialise" gives me a good feeling about your abilities. Happy sailing.
Casino’s have dress codes.
MrE wouldn’t be allowed in with his plastic bags and mongrel in tow.
Regards – Matron
Hey Matron, who told you that I wore plastic bags, that was my secret, I have to though, cos my incontinence pads keep leaking….. hehehehe…….
Binman….. don’t knock online casino’s, it’s the only way I play. I can visit when I wan’t to and that’s usually about 3 times a day, and I don’t get embarrased at being a tight git when I stop after winning a fiver……. I’m all in favour of the online variety cos I know my way around, if you let me loose in a landbased one, I’d not know where to start…… long live the Online Cassy…..<br>:biggrin: :biggrin: <br>I keep doing these bleeding smileys, waste of time ennit, just makes the posts look stupid. I wonder if old Daylight is having trouble paying the bill…. mmmm…. I think I’ll have to send him a fiver…… yep, I’m afraid hehehe’s will have to do for now……..
Hehehehe….
MrE
Sorry guys, I meant to say this earlier…… no matter how good you think your system/method is, the STAKING is the be all and end all of it….. if you enter the betting ring using any medium, Roulette, Blackjack, Horses, Dogs etc., whichever, you’ll go tits up at any of ’em without a SENSIBLE staking plan….. the words will be repeated for years to come but it is imperative that it is heeded…. "Money Management" MUST rule….
MrE
"Smileys" will be up again in March.
Due to this site being so popular, Daylight is up to his monthly quota and would be financially penalised if he goes over.
Keep on rolling MrE!!!!!!
Regards – Matron
Bugger me Matron, fancy having to pay to smile…… Jeeez, I musta cost him a fortune….. hahahaha….. I didn’t think taking the pee outa old Urby was that costly. I must write 200 times… "Urby costs us money, Urby costs us money"….. hahaha…… thats gotta certain ring about it aint it….. have you seen his selections lately…. cooo, they’re nearly as bad as mine…….<br>(smiley)… (smiley)… (smiley)…… hahahaha……
MrE
Mr Ed<br>Don’t knock working on the bins. It’s good money and you get flexi-time. I’m normally done by 2pm. I once worked in Crete as a binnie so I’m cultured as well.<br>There’s you knocking me for my 20 spins yet you’re happy to stop at a fiver!<br>Tell me your staking plan E.<br>E’s a good.
I USE THE ROLLING DOUBLES METHOD ON THE ROULETTE MACHINES IN THE BOOKMAKERS ON RED OR BLACK WHICH EVER I THINK WILL RUN UP A SEQUENCE I HAVE BEEN QUITE SUCCESFULL WITH THIS METHOD BUT YOU HAVE TO GET OUT WHEN YOUR IN FRONT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS MR E
Hi Trot….. Ahhhh, you mentioned those magic words "Rolling Doubles", the gateway to success. It was on Roulette that my version of the RD’s originated, and I aint looked back since, whether its Roulette, GG’s or them little 4 legged wonders that chase after the Mothercare Bunny. I have to say though, I aint ever tried it in a bookies shop, never even heard of it, is it one of those "bandit" machines….. no matter mate, if it works for you thats great, but can you try something other than colours cos thats a piggin awful bet, there’s just not enough consistancy in colours. If you play the staking game correctly, you should win….. now those words again, you SHOULD win, I am not saying you will win cos that depends on the individual, but with the correct application of stakes, you should win…….
Bin There…. Mr Ed’s a talking horse, I might be talking a lot, but I aint a horse…. although my missus might argue (nudge, nudge)….. the fiver, ah yes, a fiver…. that is the starting point, a solitary fiver representing a single point. My aim is to make 2pts per visit at 3 visits a day but I probably only achieve half that for various reasons cos that would make me 180 pts a month and I don’t get close to that. So, just for the sake of clarity and not over emphasising what I am actually doing, its easier to put it a nominal 1 pt a day (or a fiver). I’m retired and only have the need to supplement my pension, I don’t require to earn a living so a small return for small risks suit me down to the ground….. over the last few months I have been making about 2pts a day or 60pts a month, in fivers thats £300 per month, bloody hell, I’m happy with that…. very happy…… why stretch it further, its not required…… but beware also, I have mentioned it earlier in the thread (I think), at one stage last month I was 14 pts down, it took me 2 weeks to pull it back but I did pull it back and ended up with a 10pt profit for the month, nothing special I grant you, but could you or any of the others pull 24pts outa the hat by betting short prices on the GG’s…. no chance…… I rest my case……. any more….. hehehe…… where’s old Snowy got to, I’m on the edge of my seat just waiting for him to stick his head round the door…… coooeeee Snowflake…… hehehe…… and remember guys, its the staking that does it…….<br>(add another 3 smileys)….
MrE<br>
MR E   THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY. THEY HAVE MACHINES CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET IN BOOKMAKERS WHERE YOU CAN PLAY VARIOUS GAMES BUT ROULETTE IS THE MOST POPULAR . I WOULD  BE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOME OF YOUR ROULETTE SYSTEMS AS THE NAGS DONT SEEM VERY RELIABLE AT THE MOMENT ÂÂÂ
Hi again Trot…. betting on the nags is gonna get worse mate, much worse. I read somewhere on another site that racing is non stop, 7 days a week from now until November, so you aint even gonna get a Sunday off. The only day without racing will be Good Friday. I haven’t checked my free Betfair diary yet (smiley) but if this is correct, were most certainly are going to get inundated with dross and we’ll only have the good stuff at the weekend…. doesn’t sound too good to me cos it paints a picture that the majority of racing is going to be the same as the crap we’ve just been having, I hope I’m wrong cos I just love my racing, but aint this banded stuff just the pits……
MrE<br>
You called Mr E?
Just to recap, you’re right I do agree that it’s easier to win a short priced bet at roulette than on the nags.
My only difference of opinion was that I believe that what has happened in the last few spins has no bearing on the result of the next few spins. You prefer to see a few consecutive losers on your chosen bet before you play. That’s fair enough, my view would be that we both had an equal chance, you would feel that you had an ‘edge’. Each to his own.
Rolling Doubles: Tried this after our discussion & in my humble opinion it works BETTER at roulette than on ggs & i’ll tell you why I think it did.
On the ggs I would not only roll my winning bet from the previous race onto the next, but also initiate a ‘new’ bet on the same race ready to roll onto the following race if successful. Each losing gg therefore was losing me 2 stakes. Rightly or wrongly at roulette I was staking 1 chip at even money, if a winner then the two resultant chips would be rolled on, and I would either be 3 chips up or 1 down. As I say dont know if this is what you do Mr E but it works for me.
As a point of interest I was even more successful at Craps, just the even money stuff ( Pass / Don’t Pass )
Having a go on Urby’s 500/1 today but not just on the all weather I’ve mixed it up a bit.
Great thread, some ace stuff.
Eurgh! Don’t even get me started on banded stakes. They’re the first thing to get crossed off the list of the days racing. I wouldn’t touch ’em with a ten foot pole …. not that I’ve got a ten foot pole (I wish) …
Anyway, good luck with the 500/1 Snowy – could Mssrs Fallon and Holland go through the card at Lingfield today???
BTW good discussion lads, keep it coming – far too high brow for me though! ;)
Hi Dave….. sounds a bit mathematical but it aint, it’s easy really, it just sounds a foreign language but when you learn the lingo its a doddle…..<br>Snowflake….. the RD’s started on Roulette, I just carried the idea through to the GG’s. yeah, just like you, I love ’em, and I play according to how much I’m losing on my other two methods, sounds crackers but it works a treat. I can vary my target returns through a variety of RD’s to achieve what I want, thats the beauty of it. I can move from evens to evens and withdrawing my stake after the first call wins, that returns a profit of 2pts and move through the different scenarios to an RD of 2/1 and 2/1 giving me an 8/1 payout. My all time favourite money maker is to bet the outside Dozen @ 2/1 and roll on to the opposite evens giving me a 5/1 return, a beautiful bet and a regular payout…… keep bashing ’em Snow……… Craps, how the bloody hell do you play that, never tried it, sounds Craps…. hehehehe..<br>(add a few more Smileys)…..
MrE
hi all<br>just want to say i think this thread (the lecture) is one of the most interesting & absorbing discussions i,ve read<br>in a long time. i know that this is a horse racing forum but the roulette talk is very good. i for one am eager for<br>more.i would like to ask Mr.E. if he doesnt mind, about his r.d. bet do you mean by the outside dozen the extreme right hand column dozen & then the opposite evens. meaning an even bet on all the(18)even Nos.<br>i would appreciate clarification.<br> be lucky<br> harold.
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