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  • #141986
    Friggo
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    I’d also be a shade disappointed with Ruby had I backed Snowy Morning, but I’d be more disappointed with my horses’ jumping. No Grand Nationals for him I’m afraid, unless he improves his jumping drastically by April.

    Also, why do they insist on keeping Beef or Salmon held up? The old boy clearly wants as far as you can give him these days (hence the English & Irish GN entries), but over 3m he still gets left out the back and is even more readily outpaced. Today again he finished full of running.

    #141993
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    I thought Snowy ran well thrown into the big time today. His inexperience showed with that mistake 3 out but he finished well. He’s a joke price for the National though- I hope it doesn’t ruin him: if he were mine he wouldn’t go near Aintree. Good call TDK, you must have got Corals your huge salary today!

    #141994
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    Well done RP handicappers imo

    The Listener 2lbs clear

    Snowy 159
    Mr Top Notch 158
    Turko 162

    Tissue paper between 2nd, 3rd and 4th on ratings and a tissue paper between em in finish

    #141998
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    "……..Also, why do they insist on keeping Beef or Salmon held up? ………"

    …….perhaps that’s as fast as he can go these days! :oops: :wink:

    Colin

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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Carvills thanks for making my day. Your assessment was 100% bang on.

    Came out of the weekend with a large profit thanks to you…Your the man mate well done :wink:

    #142018
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    "……..Also, why do they insist on keeping Beef or Salmon held up? ………"

    …….perhaps that’s as fast as he can go these days! :oops: :wink:

    Colin

    perhaps he’s being saved for those long distance races

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    "seabird wrote:
    "……..Also, why do they insist on keeping Beef or Salmon held up? ………"

    …….perhaps that’s as fast as he can go these days!

    Colin

    perhaps he’s being saved for those long distance races"

    And you can just see the headstone being inscribed…

    ‘Goodbye Old Faithful Friend.’

    Unless there’s a very good reason not to, retire him now.

    #142035
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    Scally

    31 Chases, 13 wins, 5 seconds, 4 thirds, 1 Fell, 1 UR and 1 PU suggests connections have campaigned him well throughout his chasing career

    The Betfair Chase and Lexus show he is still capable of putting in 160+ performances

    why should connections of a horse that has this CV not run him at Aintree??

    These credentials give him more chance of completing and running a decent race than a lot of his fellow combatants

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    Charlie D

    Given that he’s likely to be dropped out and that he’s such a ponderous jumper, can you really see Beef Or Salmon being at all competitive at Aintree? I agree he wants a trip these days and think if it came up soft at Fairyhouse that the Irish National could be just up his street.

    #142049
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    Charlie D

    Given that he’s likely to be dropped out and that he’s such a ponderous jumper, can you really see Beef Or Salmon being at all competitive at Aintree? I agree he wants a trip these days and think if it came up soft at Fairyhouse that the Irish National could be just up his street.

    DJ,

    Competitive? who knows mate, how many are going to get round this year?

    Only nine completed last year, if a similar thing happens and BoS is one of those who completes, would you say he couldn’t mow some of those tiring horses down on that long run in?

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    31 Chases, 13 wins, 5 seconds, 4 thirds, 1 Fell, 1 UR and 1 PU suggests connections have campaigned him well throughout his chasing career

    The Betfair Chase and Lexus show he is still capable of putting in 160+ performances

    why should connections of a horse that has this CV not run him at Aintree??

    These credentials give him more chance of completing and running a decent race than a lot of his fellow combatants

    I’m sure they do – and I’m also sure that the likes of Dorans Pride and Persian Punch would agree with you wholeheartedly.

    #142063
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    I’m sure they do – and I’m also sure that the likes of Dorans Pride and Persian Punch would agree with you wholeheartedly.

    Yes Scally, great stuff

    Did you predict these fatalities before the races? if so, can you tell us how many fatalities will occur in this years Grand National or at the next Wolverhamton , Plumpton, Catterick, Ascot meetings and the names of these horses?

    #142066
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    Can’t have Snowy Morning for the National this season either after that, just looks a little too novicey still. Just guessed too mush at his fences and look like he could take a howler if he does that at aintree.

    #142073
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    I think Snowy Morning ran a blinding race, considering how he was ridden over a trip that was certainly inadequate.
    Given the slow pace, I’m surprised Ruby didn’t make more use of him, but he was obviously ridden with another day in mind. Maybe his trainer has Gold Cup aspirations, rather than the Grand National?

    #142075
    carvillshill
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    He said on Irish TV today that Snowy would miss Cheltenham. He runs next in the Bobbyjo Chase at Fairyhouse at Easter then Aintree.

    #142076
    shaund10
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    BEEF OR SALMON SHOULD NOT BE RUN IN THE NATIONAL. such a classy horse who owes nobody anything. why risk his well being by running such a great servant in the national is beyond me. His connections should thank him for all the great days he has given them, and let him enjoy the rest of his days in retirement.

    #142078
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    He said on Irish TV today that Snowy would miss Cheltenham. He runs next in the Bobbyjo Chase at Fairyhouse at Easter then Aintree.

    Cheers, Carv!

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