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November 18, 2008 at 05:11 #190383
Why don’t we just get a bit more hip and with the times and send out a load of page three girls in six inch stilleto’s and ask what they think? Just as scientific and much more pleasing on the eye..
This gets my vote Aragorn.
I don’t want going or going stick readings from courses in any country. Nor do I want correct distances. Thankfully we are drifting further away from the truth and closer to smoke and mirrors.
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November 19, 2008 at 15:53 #190631The Leicester readings reflect the fact that the hurdle races take place on the flat course, which is watered during the summer, whereas the chases are on a separate track that isn’t watered or used for any other purpose.
As I understand it, the going stick numbers are only of use for comparing different meetings at the same track, not for comparisons from course to course. In theory, over a period of years, a pattern will develop for each track that will enable us to set the scale for that track.
This is already possible for some tracks if you have the records. For example, the reading of 6.2 for Cheltenham on Friday morning told me it would be genuine soft ground. There hasn’t been a lower pre race reading in recent years on the Old Course.
I agree entirely.Until the history of the going stick readings are regularly printed in the press for meetings at the track in question for say the past ten meetings at least they are of no value to anyone.Except of course if you have kept a personal record.
It sounds as if you have this and I would love to have a copy.
Please.
Please nicely.
Oh go on,please really nicely!November 19, 2008 at 17:02 #190642I don’t have a personal record, but the info is available to anyone at :
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November 20, 2008 at 02:27 #190714I don’t have a personal record, but the info is available to anyone at :
thank you ap you have enlightened an ignorant man.
January 3, 2009 at 14:29 #201221AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Great to see John Francome kicking against the establishment line on going stick readings this morning; more’s the pity a few more journo’s aren’t as animated about this fiasco.
As he said, "Resistance is resistance, whether it’s measured on concrete or marmalade", a truism that seems lost on racing’s rulers and CoC’s.
The Racing Post does no better either, though going stick readings are now mandatory for every course, there’s little evidence of their universal use, either in the newspaper or on their website. Maybe they should just publish the readings for each course each day, leaving individuals to make up their own minds about the real truth? -
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