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    Avatar photoBosranic
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    Another horse I’m looking forward to is Calgary Bay.

    A decent novice hurdler, he will face the bigger obstacles this year and is sure to improve.

    He’s a big, good looking horse and his trainer was unusually bullish about him last year.

    “I think this is a star of the future. It’s unusual for me to say that, but I did say it after Best Mate won here as a youngster. I adore this horse, and the plan is definitely for him to come back to the Festival. He has already schooled over fences at home and will now probably follow the same path as Best Mate. He’ll have one more run and go for the Supreme Novices’, although he will have an entry in the SunAlliance (Ballymore) too.”

    Henrietta Knight
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    #184457
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Blazing Bailey will be one that is hoped to mark his class this year too. Never runs a bad race does Blazing Bailey, and think he will be winning his fair share of races too.

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    A successful return to the track for Well Chief would make me very happy, unfortunately that’s extremely wishful thinking.

    I’d like to see Exotic Dancer have an injury free season as he clearly didn’t run to form in the second half of last season. He’s a tempting each-way price for the Gold Cup at the moment.

    Noland has had a breathing operation over the summer and I think we’ll see a really good campaign from him. His jumping was really good last season in my opinion and he’ll likely be stepped up in trip as he found 2m too sharp in the Arkle.

    I think Kick’s For Free will make a really good novice chaser.

    Glencove Marina looked a really exciting prospect on his last start and it will be interesting to see how he gets on after the injury he suffered that sidelined him from the Cheltenham Festival.

    #184545
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    I am gutted captain Cee Bee is out for this season at his age not looking great at all for future, although Cork all star has been very very poor last year i hope the penny drops and he comes good????

    also looking forward to Celestial halo anyone know what distance he goes this year???

    #184556
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    also looking forward to Celestial halo anyone know what distance he goes this year???

    I am sure that i read that Paul Nicholls was going to send 2 to the Champion Hurdle.

    1 being Pierre Lunaire and the other being Celestial Halo.

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    Blazing Bailey will be one that is hoped to mark his class this year too. Never runs a bad race does Blazing Bailey, and think he will be winning his fair share of races too.

    Do you know what Alan King intends doing with him regarding blinkers Gareth? Rumour was he wanted to take them off.

    #184568
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Blazing Bailey will be one that is hoped to mark his class this year too. Never runs a bad race does Blazing Bailey, and think he will be winning his fair share of races too.

    Do you know what Alan King intends doing with him regarding blinkers Gareth? Rumour was he wanted to take them off.

    As far as i know, it is undecided.

    I personally would, as i dont think it makes any difference to the horse, he always runs his race, he has won with them, he has won without them, he won at Punchestown and he won at Aintree with them on, come second to the mighty Inglis Drever without them and beat Wichita Lineman at Cheltenham in January without them too.

    He isn’t un-genuine, and from the stable i expect him to be one that possibly isnt at the top of everyones list, but i think he will make a good mark on the Staying Hurdlers this season, and i think he will go close in the World Hurdle in March if things go his way and he has a good season.

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    Blazing Bailey had his chance last year IMO and ran a stinker at Cheltenham.

    #184578
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    Thanks Gareth. FWIW, I also doubt they make much difference around sharper tracks like Aintree and Punchestown. However, I can just imagine they may be of benefit at the stiffer tracks- Cheltenham in particular- to help him see it out.

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    You just cant tell when you’re working him though as he doesnt do a great deal, and like a few of the staying hurdlers, he finds a flat spot in his races.

    The blinkers might help with that, but i dont think it makes any difference to him what so ever.

    #184597
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    He certainly ran a stinker at Cheltenham but so did many other good horses. I’m not a huge fan but I like more about him than I dislike. He’s the type of horse who could improve further and go on to win a couple of World Hurdles should Inglis Drever take step backwards.

    Incidentally I was just reading a snippit that Kauto Star was carrying a knee injury in the Gold Cup can anyone confirm?

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    One leading bookmaker is offering 6/4 Kauto Star to win this year’s King George.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #184606
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    Paddy’s, BetDirect, Coral and Stan James to be precise.

    IMO we’ve seen the best of Kauto Star, but 6/4 is fair for the King George given what Voy Por, Tidal Bay and Our Vic have to prove against KS over that particular C&D.

    #184622
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    To be honest Friggo I think it’s an absolutely huge price.

    Kauto proved one thing at the tail end of last season..he is as tough as nails and will run forever even when he is out on his feet.

    I believe he was never right after Ascot. For what reason I don’t know but I will be amazed if he doesn’t bounce right back and make you and all the other doubters eat their words.

    If he is still 6/4 a few days before he is next due to run and there is no bad news filtering out from the yard, my advice is fill your boots to overflow.

    Needless to say I will be.

    Incidentally the Denman scare achieved only one thing……….gave the bookies an excuse to cut Kauto back to 4/1 from 7’s. You might think we have seen the best of him but the bookies certainly don’t. You have no idea the trouble I had getting laid decent money at the 7/1 being offered.

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    I am gutted captain Cee Bee is out for this season at his age not looking great at all for future, although Cork all star has been very very poor last year i hope the penny drops and he comes good????

    also looking forward to Celestial halo anyone know what distance he goes this year???

    A great prospect Captain Cee Bee and a shame he’s not going to be seen racing this season. He seems as though he’s a difficult horse to train. Breaking blood vessels and they took him out of two races last season because of the ground. But when he’s fit he’s a force to be reckoned with. I hope he is back in fine fettle next season.

    There are no concrete plans for Celestial Halo. He would want a galloping track, he was unsuited by the speed favouring track of Aintree, and will be suited by further in time. The plan at the moment is the Fighting Fifth at Newcastle followed by the Bula at Cheltenham. They will then consider where to go with him. The Champion Hurdle is a possibility depending on his performances in those races. But the stable reckon he could be more effective over further.

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