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William Munny was quite impressive today, just as Barry told us he would be in a recent interview about two weeks ago.
Kopek des Bordes beat maidens or maiden hurdle winners in impressive fashion and William Munny wasn’t too bad either today. If he should remain a double digit price I might be interested to back him win only.I was also impressed by William Munny. Much more professional then earlier this season. Clearly a big engine. I took the 20/1.
William Munny 20/1 EW
Can’t help but be impressed with the way Kopek won lto. He was a bit of a talking horse at the start of the season. His time was v.good too, despite him being not asked to do anything. He was 2 seconds faster than state man (who was hampered) in the championship race.
He’s not the slickest of jumpers but did improve markedly after a poor round of jumping on his first outing over hurdles. Despite that poor performance, he still managed to beat Kawaboomga (who would have been entered in this) by 2¾L. Usually it’s difficult to have form lines on the same day/track. However, there’s an abundance of it for this race from the December 26th Leopardstown meeting.
Kopek Des Bordes: 3m52s 11st7lb
Kawaboomga 2¾L +1S 11st7lbWorkahead 3m52s 11st12lb
William Munny 7L +1s 11st12lbWorkahead needs to be upgraded due to the extra weight, William Munny also needs to be upgraded.
This is where it gets a little interesting. Kawaboomga beats William Munny nto by 1½L or 1 second. It’s the fastest time by a large margin in the three 2m races on the day. They both carry 11st12lb.
On the times and weights, Workahead appears to be the best horse. Unfortunately, Kopek Des Bordes’ jumping improved loads nto so it’s difficult to say for certain where they will place on the day but Workahead would have beaten him off level weights on that day. De Bromhead seems to be coming into form and was bullish about Workahead’s recent training session in an interview today. Form has seen a boost with William Munny’s easy victory, the 3rd placed horse has won twice over hurdles (albeit not at the highest level). The 5th placed horse recently won a class 1 race.
William Munny is interesting as he’s had another run. He sauntered home by 15L without having to push a button. Very similar style to the now champion bumper favourite Gameofinches who was .1s quicker on the same day and distance.
Romeo Coolio is next in the betting. He was 2nd in last year’s bumper so definitely stays up the hill. The ground was described as soft, heavy in places so he has stamina. He bombed out in the Punchestown bumper, coming 5th, 7L behind William Munny who came 3rd.
He beat his stable companion Bleu de vassy lto in Leopardstown on 27th December. He beat him by 9L. He clocked 3m50.9s so 1s faster than the horses the day before. This is a rough I know but the ground did have the same description. However, a form line to Kopek Des Bordes is available through Bleu de vassy. He raced against him nto and beat him by 38L.
I suppose the time was decent. Gordon Elliot wasn’t that bullish on his chances in a preview so maybe not one to focus on.
Salvatore Mundi is next in the betting.
6th in the bumper and only seen in January. He won the Moscow flyer race but the time was the same as the maiden hurdle and they were carrying 8lb less. Nothing in behind has done anything since.
Can’t have him.Selection:
You can’t help but be impressed by Kopek Des Bordes. He is supposed to be a little revved up and that won’t help him at Cheltenham in the first race. He is a hard bet given the slight niggle about his temperament and, despite his jumping improving markedly, his jumping.
I’m going to chance two at bigger prices
Workahead @13.00
William Munny @15.00*Sorry for the lengthy write up, it’s my way of analysing the races and then organising my thoughts.
I don’t think you need to apologise for that one Jonny, I thought it was a very good post.
It’s much more palatable than coming on here claiming silly prices on Kopek Des Bordes, weeks after he was ever available at that price, like some people do.
Good luck with your bet, I’m with Workahead too, and I think we should have a run for our money
Workahead 12-1 ew
Oh yeah, and Kopek Des Bordes 25-1 (antepost from late July)
(Free Bet)
(Boosted by some bonus or other)Silver Spoon “It’s much more palatable than coming on here claiming silly prices on Kopek Des Bordes, weeks after he was ever available at that price, like some people do.”
I do hope that isnt aimed at me.
Kopek was 16s with 365 between Xmas day and the New Year.
In fact, my bet placed on 29th December at 17.56
Cheers
Yes. You may have, but you waited weeks before putting it up for some strange reason. The thread had been open for months. The question is why on earth you didn’t you put it up at the time. There was nothing to stop you. There’s no reason why you wouldn’t, other than to wait and see if anything went wrong. Dodgy
Anyway, I’m on at my superboosted 25-1 etc etc
I’ve placed v few Chelt bets on here, at the mo, even though they’re up to about 20 at the mo.
Now if i could work out how to photo the bet via my account and attach it in here i gladly will.
If anyone can assist please post an explanation.
RegardsI don’t think Silver Spoon’s point is about not believing you Wilts. It’s about the gap between having the bet and putting the bet up. I personally don’t think you are someone who makes a habit of this and it in all probability isn’t your intention…
But it can sometimes appear that some people quote an ante-post bet that they’ve had that’s since shortened…
Whereas if the bet had gone wrong (and instead lengthened) we would not have heard about it.
Which is I believe Silver Spoon’s point.I personally don’t mind. But for some people who quote their bets when they put the bets on (which I believe Silver Spoon is one) it can be a little disconcerting.
Anyway, I wish good luck with your bets Wilts and Silver Spoon. Just not too much luck. I have Romeo Coolio @ 10/1 with an 11/8 saver on Kopeck.
Value Is EverythingI agree. I don’t think it is realistic to expect everyone to post the details of every bet they have made.
What is a problem is when anyone claims to have had a bet at a highly dubious price and refuses to name the bookmaker, or claims to have “cashed out” two seconds after an antepost selection has run badly.
FYI guys.
I messaged SS via TRF’s messaging system last night and attached the screenshot of my bet. It was an info message, NO abusive stuff, just the proof. No nasty comments. If he reads it then fine; if he doesnt then also fine.
Some of you may have noticed i posted lots of my bets in the Cheltenham races thread last night.
Many of them are bets placed weeks ago.Why didnt i post them as soon as i’d placed the bets?
Answer: I just didnt. Simple as.Regards Wilts
Wilts i think i saw somewhere VTC put a post up along the lines of removing posts where odds long gone were then put up later. So something to bear in mind.
Salvator Mundi looks weak on betfair.
12 available with just one box (14) on the pink side.
Between 6/1 and out to 8/1 today in places.
Unlikely to run?
Or Gone out to the price he should be?Value Is EverythingMaybe the market thinks his jumping will not be slick enough on ground that is not likely to be deep, even with the amount of water the clerk is going to pour onto the track?
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