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Put him in a real race with a few top class hurdlers and he won’t finish within 10 lengths of the likes of Harchibald IMO
Give over FoF, your letting your imagination run wild
Put him in a real race with a few top class hurdlers and he won’t finish within 10 lengths of the likes of Harchibald IMO
Utter nonsense
Not utter nonsense Charlie, just the guys opinion – of which I would tend to agree.
Didn’t Straw Bear get beat out of sight the time before last. A defeat over Harchibald hardly rekindles the old hope that he is a star in the making IMO.
Mike
Yeah – last year’s AIG ruined virtually all the horses in it when they ran at Cheltenham. I reckon none of them were over the race by March.
I presume this is sarcasm
You are generalising from a specific. I didn’t say that every horse that runs in the AIG will suffer bad consequences. What I said was that on the balance of probabilities Straw Bear may have a harder race in Ireland, which could be a negative for his Champion chance given that he has burst in the past. In favour of going to Ireland is the fact that he’d have slightly longer to get over a hardish race last time- these are the factors they’ll be discussing before deciding. What surprises me is the amount of negativity and criticism I’ve got for expressing my opinion- have you all got S.A.D. or something- lighten up!
Put him in a real race with a few top class hurdlers and he won’t finish within 10 lengths of the likes of Harchibald IMO
Utter nonsense
Not utter nonsense Charlie, just the guys opinion – of which I would tend to agree.
Didn’t Straw Bear get beat out of sight the time before last. A defeat over Harchibald hardly rekindles the old hope that he is a star in the making IMO.
Mike
Utter nonsense was over top ( like Fof’s 10 length suggestion) Mikky, hence the edit
I’m serious – I think the AIG last year took too much out of all the horses:
1st Hardy Eustace (4th & 3rd in subsequent races last season)
2nd Brave Inca (2nd & 6th)
3rd Macs Joy (2nd)
4th Lounaos (10th & 4th)
5th Al Eile (9th)
6th Asian Maze (7th & 6th)
7th Hide the Evidence (15th & 4th)After his second at Cheltenham two years ago in the Supreme Novices, I would have expected Straw Bear’s trainer to aim him for the CH in 2 years time, bringing him along gradually. It was an epic race he ran against Noland, and he was arguably unlucky. The RPR rating allocated to him was higher than that of Nolan with the indication that he was likely to improve.
Personally, I’m inclined to think that, like the Haredy Lad, he’d be far too courageous for Harchibald in a fast-run race, while being speedy enough for him, too, in the circumstances. They say there are youngsters who are just fabulous ball-players, but they turn out to lack the competitive spirit for the game, and don’t make the level of the pro footballer. Not even the "luxury" players! Obviously, Harchy’s proved himself very high class, but he seems to have lacked that spirit. A half of THL’s spirit would probably have sufficed for him to be up with the very best in any year.
My fancy for the CH is for Ebaziyan. His trainer’s apparent implication that he hadn’t shown himself up to championship class yet this season sounds meaningless to me. Why would he? Maybe his regime is geared to a slower preparation, particularly in view of the ground.That kind of comment by a trainer makes me chuckle. Maybe to my cost! But it reminds me of the Democratic presidential aspirant, Barak Obama. I get the feeling that I’m having the mickey taken out of me. Not maliciously, but in a friendly kind of way. The other day Obama exhorted the American people to "take back the future".
Put him in a real race with a few top class hurdlers and he won’t finish within 10 lengths of the likes of Harchibald IMO
Utter nonsense
Not utter nonsense Charlie, just the guys opinion – of which I would tend to agree.
Didn’t Straw Bear get beat out of sight the time before last. A defeat over Harchibald hardly rekindles the old hope that he is a star in the making IMO.
Mike
Utter nonsense was over top ( like Fof’s 10 length suggestion) Mikky, hence the edit
Of course it’s utter nonsense that’s why Straw Bear is twice the odds of Harchibald for the Champion Hurdle
……..let’s be realistic and make it 12 lengths…If he is in the first 5 I’ll be utterly shockedOf course it’s utter nonsense that’s why Straw Bear is twice the odds of Harchibald for the Champion Hurdle
……..let’s be realistic and make it 12 lengths…If he is in the first 5 I’ll be utterly shockedi think i should have left it at utter nonsense
Of course it’s utter nonsense that’s why Straw Bear is twice the odds of Harchibald for the Champion Hurdle
……..let’s be realistic and make it 12 lengths…If he is in the first 5 I’ll be utterly shockedi think i should have left it at utter nonsense
No JP should have left him at home last year and probaly will this year after he runs in Ireland
FOF
Maybe you should take reet hards advice of
learning to read and understand form
as you seem to be misinterpreting what this tells you
Be careful TC as Straw Bear being out of the first 5 in the CH is not beyond the realms of possibility, just like it’s not beyond the realms of possibility any of his fellow CH contenders doing the same
It’s actually driving me nuts this thread…on one hand I am saying Noland can win the Arkle in one thread and on this one I am saying Straw Bear has got no chance in the Champion ………considering there was a neck between when they met at Cheltenham with Sublimity back in 4th either I am crazy, Straw Bear has gone backwards or Noland is a pile of manure with ears and Sublimity has improved 12 stone…………can I leave now
Don’t worry about it too much FoF, being wrong about a horse or two or reading formbook upside down ain’t gonna cause no harm to yourself or others
Just try and reduce these mistakes to a minimum – I do
Personally, I’m inclined to think that, like the Haredy Lad, he’d be far too courageous for Harchibald in a fast-run race, while being speedy enough for him, too, in the circumstances
I’d personally take the opposite opinion on that one. The faster run the race, the more likely Harchibald is of coming out on top. I think he wants an overly strong pace.
Am i missing something here or has it already been addressed?
SB is one of those horses whos form cannot be interpreted as a constant. He has two ways of running and this is down to his well known physical problems
Frustrating for backers and no doubt connections too, but to rule in or out any particular performance from him is a bit naive surely?
I wouldnt be at all suprised if there is a big performance in him.
Clivex
You have two poor runs when he’s been reported as not been right from 12 attempts and one where he probably needed it, so a guesstimation of ability is available. if you want to make it
How are you going have an idea SB is going burst, have an infection or succumb to some other ailment before he runs – Ring Mystic Meg????
Think your showing a bit of naivety Clivex
Dont understand your point. In fact i think you should try reading my post properly before responding
Hes burst blood vessels and as we all know, once that happens it can happen again and again
Hes shown real potential and i think he has yet to run his very best race. Just a hunch
But where did i suggest that there is any method of predicting this?
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