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Indeed. I used to love watching Ferdy Murphys Your A Gassman jump his fences like a cat.
Are Denman and Long Run unequal near-equals as Timeform suggest? Would they have all but dead-heated in a Gold Cup?
Denman would have jumped him into those familiar mistakes surely, just as the late vintage kauto did.
The idea that anybody can cite a specific horse as being the best jumper of a fence of all-time is ridicuous. There are hundreds of thousands of horses who have jumped a fence who none of you have ever seen. Many lower grades animals can be spectacular jumpers.
Entirely pointless. Can’t we simply say Sprinter Sacre and Arkle are both extremely profficient jumpers of a fence, rather than tumble down the path of hyperbole and exaggeration once more.But what would we do for fun? If we were not allowed to speculate, judge, suggest, hope, propose and pontificate, would not these threads be a little sterile and grim?
I’m sure that
printersraces
has not seen every horse who ever jumped a fence. I did not take his comment literally. But there has to be the opportunity for people to be opinionated, to draw out other people’s opinions, perhaps seriously, but sometimes just for fun.
Likewise, in my tighter confines of Kempton Paropinion Long Run would have come out top round the flatter,
Not that but the right handed thing. Newbury is flat and i know who i would have backed there
But what would we do for fun? If we were not allowed to speculate, judge, suggest, hope, propose and pontificate, would not these threads be a little sterile and grim?
I’m sure that
printersraces
has not seen every horse who ever jumped a fence. I did not take his comment literally. But there has to be the opportunity for people to be opinionated, to draw out other people’s opinions, perhaps seriously, but sometimes just for fun.
Any discussion about the greatest jumper of a fence of all time is about as useful as staying home during the day and watching re-runs of Murder She wrote.
It’s simply an impossible thing to quantify. A totally preposterous discussion.
I understand that discussions on forums largely are the perpetuation of recycled opinions, opinions that are often impossible to validate past respectability. This particularly discussion, however, is more inane than working in a sock factory.
I haven’t seen a more assured, adept and economical fencer than Chergan, trained by Sue Bradburne, ridden by Mark Bradburne and ‘rated’ around 120
Spent most of his time in Scotland and The Borders, with the occasional away day in Yorkshire
I’m sure Robnorth and Graysonscolumn remember him well
Any discussion about the greatest jumper of a fence of all time is about as useful as staying home during the day and watching re-runs of Murder She wrote.
It’s simply an impossible thing to quantify. A totally preposterous discussion.
I understand that discussions on forums largely are the perpetuation of recycled opinions, opinions that are often impossible to validate past respectability. This particularly discussion, however, is more inane than working in a sock factory.
You seem like the sort of person who could make a fair fist of following in
Gingertipster
‘s footsteps. He gave up the old day-job (carpet laying) to make his living by successfully investing money on his opinion on the relative odds of the possible outcomes of horse races; and spending his leisure time helping us all understand values, chance and percentages. He certainly provides educational and entertainment value for us all. You seem to have a serious mind, the ability to put frivolity aside when required, a tenacious approach to being right and the fortitude to back your own judgement. Backing your work ethic and analytical skill with hard cash at the bookmakers or exchanges has to be a more interesting way to spend your time than working the night-shift in the sock factory and then watching daytime television. Advising forum members on whether certain threads have value, and on the proper (non?) responses to valueless threads, in your leisure time would be a helpful education for us all.
You seem like the sort of person who could make a fair fist of following in
Gingertipster
‘s footsteps. He gave up the old day-job (carpet laying) to make his living by successfully investing money on his opinion on the relative odds of the possible outcomes of horse races; and spending his leisure time helping us all understand values, chance and percentages. He certainly provides educational and entertainment value for us all. You seem to have a serious mind, the ability to put frivolity aside when required, a tenacious approach to being right and the fortitude to back your own judgement. Backing your work ethic and analytical skill with hard cash at the bookmakers or exchanges has to be a more interesting way to spend your time than working the night-shift in the sock factory and then watching daytime television. Advising forum members on whether certain threads have value, and on the proper (non?) responses to valueless threads, in your leisure time would be a helpful education for us all.
I must admit, as someone who enjoys a good troll, the above is pretty good.
I would unequivocally fail at gambling in horse racing. Hence, i don’t bet.
Any discussion about the greatest jumper of a fence of all time is about as useful as staying home during the day and watching re-runs of Murder She wrote.
It’s simply an impossible thing to quantify. A totally preposterous discussion.
I understand that discussions on forums largely are the perpetuation of recycled opinions, opinions that are often impossible to validate past respectability. This particularly discussion, however, is more inane than working in a sock factory.
You seem like the sort of person who could make a fair fist of following in
Gingertipster
‘s footsteps. He gave up the old day-job (carpet laying) to make his living by successfully investing money on his opinion on the relative odds of the possible outcomes of horse races; and spending his leisure time helping us all understand values, chance and percentages. He certainly provides educational and entertainment value for us all. You seem to have a serious mind, the ability to put frivolity aside when required, a tenacious approach to being right and the fortitude to back your own judgement. Backing your work ethic and analytical skill with hard cash at the bookmakers or exchanges has to be a more interesting way to spend your time than working the night-shift in the sock factory and then watching daytime television. Advising forum members on whether certain threads have value, and on the proper (non?) responses to valueless threads, in your leisure time would be a helpful education for us all.
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"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Any discussion about the greatest jumper of a fence of all time is about as useful as staying home during the day and watching re-runs of Murder She wrote.
Steady on, can’t have that, really must protest in the strongest possible terms. Angela Lansbury is not only a fine actress but also a ‘heart-throb’ as they would have said yesterday
Couldn’t you have chosen Countdown?
In National Velvet
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2FhOwY4enqv27goNj2SURxAToIH_AAt2F9cyA8DHiRg3rdAnnZw
In Murder She Wrote
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/sipa_murder_she_wrote_080603_ssv.jpg
The years were very kind to Miss Lansbury, weren’t they?
Infact she would have made an excellent Clare Balding, and probably still would at the age of 87
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Angela_Lansbury_%288356239174%29.jpg/220px-Angela_Lansbury_%288356239174%29.jpg
‘hot or wot’ as they would say today
I’d LOVE to see Sprinter Sacre in the King George. And this year, while he’s at his peak, not when he’s past it as an afterthought to his career.
Likely? Probably not.
What do you think?
I’d LOVE to see Sprinter Sacre in the King George. And this year, while he’s at his peak, not when he’s past it as an afterthought to his career.
Likely? Probably not.
What do you think?
Why?
Sprinter Sacre is a two mile horse why race him at an unsuitable distance?
Would you call for Black Caviar to run in the Arc and expect her to win?
Would you expect Usian Bolt to run in the 800m and beat his rivals?
You’re obviously feeling bored and provocative after your four days in the Gloucestershire countryside David
I had hoped, after he had retired, we had seen the last of the "Frankel is not a great horse because he hasn’t run over a mile and a half" type debates – now it seems we’re destined to have the same with Sprinter Sacre
Judging by the ease of his wins and the soundness of his jumping, I get the impression that Sprinter Sacre could go another 4 or 5 furlongs.
Sprinter Sacre is a two mile horse why race him at an unsuitable distance?
Where’s the evidence that 3m is ‘an unsuitable distance’?
Mike
Paul – imagine how much poorer we all (and the sport in general) would have been had they adopted that outlook with Kauto Star.
Echoing other’s points, he looks every inch a horse who will savour a longer trip. From a selfish point of view (and I accept that it IS purely selfish), I have limited interest in seeing him win the next two Champion Chases by wide margins from horses like Wishful Thinking.
Sir Des Champs, Silviniaco Conti, Long Run, Bobsworth AND Sprinter Sacre. How far would you travel to see that King George.
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