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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    I think he’s right and I never understood why horses especially in GB are allowed to drift all over the place. Most of the times even with no Stewards’ Enquiries taking place.

    Doyle was quite arrogant and he seems to know that they can get away with everything. By the way this could have been very bad at Donny today.

    #1775305
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    Agree, ERL. Doyle was arrogant, which I was disappointed to hear.

    Sanders is right. One of the few pundits in the otherwise hopeless racing media prepared to give an opinion and not interested in maintaining a cosy friendship with jockeys and trainers.

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    I agree its good that Sanders will mouth his opinion but I’m not convinced you can keep a horse straight if the horse decides against it. The Dancing Pirate at York being the prime example

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    #1775310
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    The biggest disgrace was that no stewards enquiry was announced. You can’t be sure what was involved in the various interference without a proper enquiry. There was no interference in a race a couple of weeks ago but a stewards enquiry was announced and the placings reversed.

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    There was a Stewards Enquiry, reported as below:

    An enquiry was held to consider interference on the run to the line, involving, the winner FINAL OBJECTIVE (IRE), ridden by James Doyle, FAST TRACK, placed fourth, ridden by Tom Marquand and IN THE BLACK, placed fifth, ridden by P. J Macdonald. The interference was found to be accidental in that passing the ½ furlong marker with the runners in close proximity, Tom Marquand the rider of FAST TRACK (IRE) accidently struck IN THE BLACK with the whip which caused that gelding to shift right-handed towards the heels of FINAL OBJECTIVE (IRE) there-after, FINAL OBJECTIVE (IRE) stepped quickly left-handed, despite Doyle’s best effort to straight the gelding, causing in IN THE BLACK to become short for room and McDonald to check when placed on the heels of FINAL OBJECTIVE (IRE) resulting in IN THE BLACK clipping a heel and stumbling after the line.

    Having seen the head-on I’m not convinced that James Doyle made his ‘best effort to straight(sic) the gelding’.

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    I am amazed at the arrogance of James Doyle!! I thought he was a reasonable bloke but that just shows how wrong I was!! Like I have already said his riding in that race was careless bordering on dangerous and as far as making his best effort to keep his horse straight I must have been watching a different race when he was doing that!!

    Seb Sanders nay have been slightly sensationalising it but there was a danger of a horse coming down and that danger was created by Doyle “allowing ” his horse to move across the track and I think the old boys network of Aussie Tom and PJ helped him out a bundle but surely the stewards can see with there own eyes and don’t have to just believe the spiel coming out of certain jockeys mouths!!

    To be honest I love this game but there are certain things that make my p*!s boil and the rules on interference are one of them!! Just because the hampered horse finishes nowhere the winner is highly unlikely to get DQ’ed.
    And jockeys saying they didn’t know someone was there is admitting to incompetence in my eyes!! ;negative;

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    “There was a Stewards Enquiry, reported as below:”

    That was after the weighed in Rob. It needs to be done and seen to be done prior to the weigh in, in case the result is affected.

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    “We don’t have wing mirrors”
    Aye would you drift across lanes on a motorway without wing mirrors if you were driving a wee hatchback. Um no. The danger is to the horse behind so he doesn’t care.

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    Jockeys have been allowing their horses to drift for quite some time, Oisin Murphy a master at it. The stewards could do much more to stamp it out but their masters at the BHA won’t allow it.

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    The champ was allowed to keep the race (2.45 Yarmouth), but got a three day ban. This is a gift, if you watch the replay. I think only when a horse will be brought down there might be a disqualification on the horizon.
    The Stewards are far too lenient, imo.

    #1775719
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    Oisin and the Yarmouth stewards obviously didn’t read Richard Forristal’s strong piece on this over their Weetabix this morning. Maybe they should read it tonight over their cocoa!

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