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  • #1560812
    Kifill
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    Back any club that was a member of the Scottish Junior Football Association 10 years ago against an opponent that wasn’t.

    The reasoning – Scottish football outside the SPFL has restructured massively in the last 15 years, with a pyramid system getting set up similar to the one that has long existed south of the border. However, clubs have yet to find their correct level within it, which at the moment is more likely to be determined by when they joined the system rather than on their playing ability.

    The Juniors (nothing to do with youth football) are traditionally the strongest clubs in central Scotland outside the SPFL, and have until very recently been an entirely separate association to the SFA, competing in separate competitions and never in the Scottish Cup. As they were late to the restructuring party, many of their bigger clubs are playing at a level or two below much smaller and historically weaker opponents that they will be meeting in the earlier rounds of the Scottish Cup. Odds on these ties, where available, tend to reflect the level of the leagues the teams are playing at, rather than the likely ability of the teams.

    Clubs qualifying on this system are highlighted below. Odds from https://www.mcbookie.com/sport/football

    Nairn County v Strathspey Thistle
    Wigtown & Bladnoch v St Cuthbert Wanderers
    Fraserburgh v Sauchie (7/1)
    Banks o’Dee (1/6) v Turriff United
    Newtongrange Star (5/1) v Dalbeattie Star
    Cumbernauld Colts v Buckie Thistle
    Spartans v Gala Fairydean Rovers
    Penicuik Athletic v Tranent
    Blackburn United (11/2) v Rothes
    Broomhill v Glasgow University
    East Stirlingshire v Fort William
    Coldstream v East Kilbride
    Lothian Thistle HV v Edinburgh University
    Clydebank v Dalkeith Thistle
    Berwick Rangers v Gretna 2008
    Caledonian Braves v University of Stirling
    Lossiemouth v Preston Athletic
    Dunbar United v Camelon
    Brechin City v Vale of Leithen
    Inverurie Loco Works v Jeanfield Swifts (19/5)
    Keith v Darvel (1/4)
    Golspie Sutherland v Civil Service Strollers
    Wick Academy v Bo’ness United (8/15)
    Formartine United v Cumnock (17/10)
    Huntly v Hill of Beath Hawthorn (2/1)
    Irvine Meadow v Auchinleck Talbot
    Forres Mechanics v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic (2/5)
    Deveronvale v Haddington Athletic (12/5)
    Clachnacuddin v Dunipace (9/2)
    Tynecastle v Brora Rangers

    #1560829
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Interesting Kifill, hope this brings you some good results.

    I’m out the loop with this, and unaware that there had been a change in the structure.

    Long time since I’ve been to a Juniors game, but used to go and see Lesmahagow or Lugar. Long time ago.

    Good luck

    #1561392
    Kifill
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    Sauchie won at 7/1
    Banks o’Dee won at 1/6
    Newtongrange Star drew at 5/1
    Blackburn United lost at 11/2
    Jeanfield Swifts won at 19/5
    Darvel won at 1/4
    Bo’ness United drew at 8/15
    Cumnock drew at 17/10
    Hill of Beath Hawthorn lost at 2/1
    Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic won at 2/5
    Haddington Athletic drew at 12/5
    Dunipace won at 9/2

    Happy with that. I quite fancied the chances of Dunipace and Jeanfield, but Sauchie winning at Highland League leaders Fraserburgh was a real surprise. The system needs to build up a good healthy profit at this stage, as they are all going to get knocked out in the end.

    Replays tomorrow:
    Bo’ness United (4/11) v Wick Academy
    Cumnock (11/10) v Formartine United
    Dalbeattie Star v Newtongrange Star (11/4)
    Haddington Athletic (6/5) v Deveronvale

    (Edit: Bo’ness won at 4/11, Haddington won at 6/5, the other two lost)

    #1564287
    Kifill
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    The first batch of SPFL teams proper enter at this stage. Any profits from the round probably hinge on whether Jeanfield, Haddington, Bo’ness or Darvel can overturn SPFL opposition (or recent ex-SPFL opposition, in the case of Brechin) away from home.

    Annan Athletic v Jeanfield Swifts (9/4) LOST
    Banks o’Dee (40/85) v Nairn County WON
    Berwick Rangers v Stirling Albion
    Brechin City v Haddington Athletic (33/10) LOST
    Broomhill v Tranent (17/20) WON
    Brora Rangers v Albion Rovers
    Clydebank (15/4) v Elgin City DREW
    Cowdenbeath v Civil Service Strollers
    Dalbeattie Star v Rothes
    Dunbar United (23/20) v Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale DREW
    East Kilbride v University of Stirling
    East Stirlingshire v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic (4/9) WON
    Edinburgh City v Bo’ness United (11/4) LOST
    Formartine United v Forfar Athletic
    Kelty Hearts (1/5) v Buckie Thistle WON
    Preston Athletic v Auchinleck Talbot (1/5) WON
    Sauchie v Dunipace
    Stenhousemuir v Huntly
    Stranraer v Darvel (13/8) WON

    #1565134
    Kifill
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    Replays –

    Elgin City v Clydebank (2/1) WON
    Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale v Dunbar United (31/20) LOST

    #1566671
    Kifill
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    Next round –

    Alloa Athletic v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic (21/4) LOST
    Arbroath v Forfar Athletic
    Auchinleck Talbot (7/2) v Hamilton Academical WON
    Ayr United v Albion Rovers
    Banks o’Dee (7/2) v East Fife WON
    Brechin City v Darvel (29/20)
    Civil Service Strollers v Peterhead
    Clydebank (10/3) v Clyde WON
    Cove Rangers v Queen of the South
    Dalbeattie Star v East Kilbride
    Dumbarton v Sauchie (16/1) LOST
    Falkirk v Raith Rovers
    Gala Fairydean Rovers v Annan Athletic
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Greenock Morton
    Kelty Hearts (6/4) v Montrose DREW
    Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale v Edinburgh City
    Partick Thistle v Dunfermline Athletic
    Queen’s Park v Kilmarnock
    Stenhousemuir v Airdrieonians
    Stirling Albion v Tranent (4/1) LOST

    Kelty ought to progress but most of the rest have ties of varying degrees of trickiness – mostly winnable if their league opponents have an off-day or underestimate them. Talbot v Hamilton in particular is an absolutely fascinating, and very winnable, tie.

    #1579126
    Kifill
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    This is probably the end of the road for this system this time around.

    Auchinleck Talbot (12/1) v Heart of Midlothian LOST
    Arbroath v Darvel (9/1) LOST
    Banks o’Dee (7/1) v Raith Rovers LOST
    Clydebank (14/5) v Annan Athletic LOST
    Kelty Hearts (15/4) v St Johnstone WON

    Edit…

    Unbelievable…the defending Scottish Cup winners have just gone and got themselves knocked out by Kelty Hearts. (OK, so it’s only St Johnstone, but I did not see that coming).

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