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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    I’m going to test Billions selections on rp3 but with a different staking plan. MrE does not like this staking plan as stakes can rise quite quickly and aggressively but with a win stop target I think we can keep it controlled.

    The staking works off a line of numbers we will do 1-7. 1 being 10p and 7 being 70p. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 all we do is add the 1st number to the last to make the stake if the selection wins we add the stake number to the list if it loses we cross off the 2 numbers used. We’ll target a £7.00 profit and if reached start the sequence again of 1-7.

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    I will try to get my head around this plan

    Nathan

    I think it reads like Fibanacci,

    am I close?

    I will watch this because I hope you will unlock what I believe the system needs to be a true success.

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Reverse Labouchere – thank goodness for Google.

    Was this not created with Roulette in mind?

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    Yes it was Bill, I use it on football betting a bit. I think it requires a high strike rate to be any good but it’s only a trial so no harm done if it fails badly.

    date — line —— horse — results — days score — Running total

    1.1.12 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 – Oscargo – lost – -80p –

    2.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6 – Bene Lad – won 9/4 – +£1.80 –

    3.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6,8 – On the Cusp – lost – -£1.00 – £0.00

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    Nathan

    – you have got the grey matter churning & churning & churning and for someone of 107 that sure is a heck of a lot of brain churning.

    I have again looked at the results, which since limited to "one a day" only runs into a bakers dozen of selections and the results at BOG prices are: –

    7/4 11/8 L L L 11/8 L 6/4 L 9/4 L L 1/1

    6 wins from 13 bets is a good win ratio but at poor prices.

    The options as I consider them to be vastly increased stakes or a better staking plan than the one I have in use.

    I am consider a backward and forward route of increasing by 1 point following a loser and decreasing 1 point following a winner which vastly increases the profit,

    what do you think?

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    7/4 11/8 L L L 11/8 L 6/4 L 9/4 L L 1/1

    This sequence of results using reverse lab would of got you a £1.04 profit starting with an 80p stake, which is worse than level stakes. Reserve lab works best when you can get 4 or 5 winners in a row as you can reach your target and start again other than that I think you will just win or lose a little than you would at level stakes.

    I reckon as long as you keep the results you can always play around with staking systems after and see how they compare. Your idea of increasing after a loser and decreasing after a winning means that your winner if you get one :shock: will always be at the higher stake.

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    With another winner to add to the sequence certain helps build the confidence

    Nathan

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    The trouble is along with high confidence comes greed :roll:

    I do think upping the unit to £1 from 50p is right and a quicker increment to 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (backward & forward) can be considered providing the 50% strike rate continues.

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    update

    date — line —— horse — results — days score — Running total

    1.1.12 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 – Oscargo – lost – -80p –

    2.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6 – Bene Lad – won 9/4 – +£1.80 –

    3.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6,8 – On the Cusp – lost – -£1.00 –

    4.1.12 – 3,4,5,6, – Mr Chow – lost – -90p –

    5.1.12 – 4,5 – Grams And Ounces – Won 1/1 – +90p –

    6.1.12 – 4,5,9 – Bagsy’s Bridge – Won 15/8 – +£1.80 –

    7.1.12 – 4,5,9,13 – Master of the Hall – lost – -£1.70 –

    8.1.12 – 5,9 – Johnny Owen – Won 8/13 – +61p –


    Staked £8.80
    Return £9.51
    Profit +0.71p

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    Hello guys, guess who’s back….. :D :D
    OK Nathan, first of all, I do not dislike staking plans, I just frigging hate stupid staking plans….. however, I do agree with a realistic stop loss as you quite rightly mentioned….. the thing that I keep misunderstanding, is why experienced bettors who have frequented this site since before Billy ‘Un was born, fail to recognise a GOOD staking plan….. :D
    Why has the "Staircase" staking plan been cast aside like bum fodder, it is far and away better for your wealth than is a lot of other crap that’s being touted about….. lets look at the sequence of results that each of you put forward and apply the "Simple Staircase"…..
    The "Simple Staircase" consists of a 25pt bank and means that bets of 12345 can be utilised to it’s fullest extent…. Billions results first….
    The staking would have been 1112343434345, at this point we have reached the final 5pt stake and we stop and start again….. but this resulted in a total expenditure of 38pts which returned us 47.60pts approx, giving us a profit of + 9.60pts… that’s a 25% ROI…. but more importantly, it’s a 35% increase to your starting bank…..
    Now if we take Nathan’s sequence of results, our staking would have been 12123212, a total expenditure of 14pts, the returns of 21pts or a 7pt profit (a 50%) ROI…..
    These figures are not exact, but they are close, and the results are far better than anything else I’ve seen down here….. in my opinion, any staking plan must be based on a sensible risk and the Staircase style presents itself as a pretty good method of staking…..
    :D :D :D :D

    MrE

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    Nathan….. Oooops, sincere apologies my friend, I’ve stuck this on the wrong thread, it was meant to go on the RP3 thread…. :oops: :oops: perhaps Matron can do the honours and bung it in the correct place….. sorry for knackering up your thread…..
    :D :D :D :D

    MrE

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    8.1.12 – 5,9 – Johnny Owen – Won 8/13 – +61p –

    Perhaps I need to bet these as working off the top of my head isn’t my strong point. £1.40 at 8/13 returns a profit of 86p not 61p.

    Overall thread profit being +0.96p.

    I thought Billion was using your staircase MrE, see my brain is mush…… :oops:

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    Dumb.

    Dumber.

    And even dumber!

    You decide who is what.

    :roll: :wink:

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    update

    date — line —— horse — results — days score — Running total

    1.1.12 – 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 – Oscargo – lost – -80p –

    2.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6 – Bene Lad – won 9/4 – +£1.80 –

    3.1.12 – 2,3,4,5,6,8 – On the Cusp – lost – -£1.00 –

    4.1.12 – 3,4,5,6, – Mr Chow – lost – -90p –

    5.1.12 – 4,5 – Grams And Ounces – Won 1/1 – +90p –

    6.1.12 – 4,5,9 – Bagsy’s Bridge – Won 15/8 – +£1.80 –

    7.1.12 – 4,5,9,13 – Master of the Hall – lost – -£1.70 –

    8.1.12 – 5,9 – Johnny Owen – Won 8/13 – +86p –

    9.1.12 – 5,9,14 – Mataajir – lost – -£1.90 –

    10.1.12 – 9 – Banile Anrai – won 1/1? – +90p –

    11.1.12 – 9,9 – Quel Ballistic – lost – -£1.80 –

    12.1.12 – 9 – Dashing Eddie – won 2/1 – +£1.80 –

    13.1.12 – 9,9 – Hothelonely – won 7/2 – +£6.30 –


    One winner tomorrow Bill and we reach our £7 target……. :D
    If I’ve done my maths right. :?

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    Fingers crossed then

    Nathan

    but should you wish to make any comparison I was staking 50p for week 1 and from then I have staked £1 (per point) starting with Master of the Hall and am at present £10.80 to the good.

    :) :)

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Nathan HughesNathan Hughes
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    Nice stuff Bill, I’m guessing your £10.80 beats level stakes aswell so well done.

    I’m sure if I was playing with real money I would start the stakes back as it’s only 76p off the target OF £7 but the next stake being £2.70 could knock us back if it loses, so being a cautious type I will settle for £6.24 as the met target and reset the stakes starting tomorrow.

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