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  • #2078
    Money on
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    I have the jersey between Us Ranger and Strategic Prince, Us Ranger will relish the step back in trip and Strategics two best career runs imo were over 7fs as a 2yo.

    I have it between Nannina and Flashy Wings in the coronation, Nannina didnt act well in the slowish ground at Epsom and tomorrow returns to the scene of her biggest career win. If Flashy Wings is anywhere near her Leopardstown run last Sept she’ll go mighty close.

    In the Prince Of Wales i wouldn’t be too confident in a selection but if i had to pick one then i’d go for Sir Percy at a bit of value imo. He has had 2 dissapointing runs since his Derby win with the Run in Dubai respectable. On the other hand i think Notnowcato is a great lay win and place.

    Pride Of Nation looks like he has been campaigned around another tilt at the Hunt cup after a big dissapointment last year. He is only 3 pound higher this year and most go close.

    Nap of the day is Fanatical in the Queen Mary, She is quite a big price at around 28s but that is because Ed Vaughn trains her. She really impressed me with her front running win at Newbury and was heavily eased at the line. My only worry is she may get outpaced.

    I have no view in the last race but think there could be still more to come from Barshiba at a price.

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    #65463
    aidanldrebin
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    2.30 Thousand Words<br>3.05 Waseema<br>3.45 Red Rocks<br>4.20 Montpellier<br>4.55 Polar Circle<br>5.30 Very tough but between Lady Grace and Italian Girl

    #65465
    Grimes
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    Strategic Prince<br>Waseema<br>Manduro

    Eden Rock, Trafalgar Square, Sound of Nature, & Pride of Nation – just done the first 3; Fantastic View’s scary, though.

    Polar Circle<br>Alderney

    (Edited by Grimes at 9:53 pm on June 19, 2007)

    #65467
    clivex
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    I was impressed with the way Sweepstake won at sandown, but lady avenger didnt have the run of the race either. At about 14’s might back that one to get closer .Sire didnt need it soft to win too

    #65468
    davidbrady
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    Jersey Stakes: US Ranger<br>Windsor Forest: Nannina<br>Prince of Wales: Notnowcato<br>Royal Hunt: Supaseus

    No real opinion on the last 2 races

    #65469
    LetsGetRacing
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    Fresh from Henrythenavigator and Full House yesterday, the Royal wallet is looking relatively healthy.

    I think Major Cadeaux may be able to dominate in what doesn’t look the strongest of Jerseys (assuming, as I do, that US Ranger won’t go on the ground) but I’m hoping Arabian Gleam can build on an impressive maiden victory.

    Satwa Queen looks the class act in the 3.05 and should secure the first leg of an overseas double with Manduro. The latter has looked sensational this season, will go on any ground and is clearly a top class animal over this sort of trip – he should have too much speed for the likes of Dylan Thomas.

    I have always been a fan of Eden Rock and hope he will begin to fulfill his potential, but I think small stakes are probably advisable.

    The same can’t be said of Bastikiyah however, who should be well up to taking the 4.55. A winner of a weak Southwell maiden, she won by 11 lengths without ever really hitting top gear and could just have the class to take this dropping back in trip.

    The closer looks tricky, but Barshiba still rates an animal of potential. Unlucky in the Nell Gwyn, the 1000 Guineas looked to come too quickly for her.

    (Edited by LetsGetRacing at 11:51 pm on June 19, 2007)

    #65470
    carvillshill
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    Everything tomorrow depends on the ground- if it stays as today I’ll be backing Dylan Thomas at an unbelievable 11/4 or bigger, which would be the bet of the week. If ther’s any significant rain he’ll struggle.

    #65471
    benbdb
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    2.30 US Ranger<br>3.05 Flashy Wings<br>3.45 Dylan Thomas

    the rest are just for watching for me, havnt had time to study the handicaps properly and too many unknowns with the 2 yr olds for me to get involved.

    Good luck to all

    #65472
    Aragorn
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    I have the first race between US ranger, Major Cadeaux and strategic prince (Who seems overpriced to me). Major Cadeaux would not have been far off winning the guineas if they ran it over 7f and after that race I thought he would win this. US Ranger I expected to go for the St James Palace so i’m a bit gutted he’s turned up here throwing me a curve ball.. I’d suggest a combination forecast on the 3 of them and if I had to choose it would be Major Cadeaux for me.

    If Waseema wins the Windsor Forest i’ll eat my own head. Satwa Queen or Echelon for me, the latter seems to have improved again this year and her form stands up, seemed to win in spite of the track the last day. Satwa Queens run behind Mandesha last year is probably about the best recent form on offer.

    The Prince of Wales could be a strange race but I fancy they’ll make the running on DT in which case I think it’ll be between him and Red Rocks. Last nights rain has probably spoilt SP’s chances and Manduro definitely has a chance but I think yesterdays Queen Anne is not form to be taken literally and wouldn’t back him on the basis of Turtle Bowls finishing position. If they set a good gallop Notnowcato won’t stay..

    #65473
    aston
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    Only 2 today.

    Eden Rock

    Sweepstake

    Good luck.

    #65474
    Tony25
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    “Allez les bleus“!!

    Like in Poker the “FULL HOUSE“ got us through round one,onto round two:-

    2.30 US RANGER a major bet for this boy,whilst he finished behind Major Cadeaux i think the complot of the race disadvantaged him more than the latter,the 3lbs he receives today is an added bonus,a return to 7furlongs won`t inconvenience either of the above, although, at the same time i wouldn`t put the Newmarket distance forward as an excuse,what i like about US RANGER is his ability to travel up with the pace,a true end to end gallop should be right up his street,with regards to Strategic prince the drop in trip has to be a worry,surely he needs further,conceding 5lbs won`t help either……very confident bet!!

    3.05 Quite a tricky race,all the same i will side with SATWA QUEEN to small stakes

    3.45 RED ROCKS is very progressive,his ability to settle could be an asset in what might amount to a tactical race,you can`t do better than Dettori so having availed myself to some 5,5 im happy,the main danger for me is Dylan Thomas , i was disappointed with the ride he got lost time although he didn`t assist by racing too keen,all the same im sure he will reverse form with the game Notnowcato,Manduro is intriguing,however,i can`t get out of my head that he was beaten fair and square by Soldier hollow,whilst he might of improved i dont think theirs enough solid proof as both races he won this seaon where softies,simply put, i think he`s good racing against lesser individuals but this is his “Waterloo“!!

    4.20 ROYAL OATH could be livened up by the blinkers,he travels well and will enjoy this ground,being in stall 14 the intelligent Jimmy Fortune can choose where he`s going so he shouldnt be disadvantaged,i would have had a little on MINORITY REPORT and still might depending on earlier results but stall one is offputting,saying that he wasn`t given much chance at Thirsk and should do better,the going as gone against Pride of nation,unless it rains between now and start time i think the carefully laid out plans have been put to rest.

    4.55 No idea!!

    5.30 Was impressed with ITALIAN GIRL last time out,she looks very progressive and JS appears to get along best with her,hardly a major betting medium but all the same a small interest!!

    Enjoy your day!!

    #65475
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    Aragorn and others, I’d be worried about whether Strategic Prince has trained on, and the overall form of P Cole’s horses.

    The huge price has a certain amount of hypnotic value when judging two year old form, but these two factors are parade-rainers for me.  Might take a pop at Sonny Red in this one to baby stakes in a race where upsets are relatively common.

    #65476
    benbdb
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    think im going to back Chariots of fire e/w as well as only fifth run, open to massive improvement and didnt run in the Guineas (a massive trend in recent winners) might bomb but the more i look at it the more i like it.

    #65477
    davidjohnson
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    I really like Starlit Sands in the Queen Mary. She looks a real speedball. Did really well at Thrisk on her debut, harried by 2 with experience and saw them off and still had enough in the tank to repel a couple that challenged later. Again plenty to like about her Catterick win, bullying that field from the off and never looking like being reeled in. Can see her making a very bold bid.

    I’d have preferred to see Sweepstake in the Albany. She was outpaced at halfway in the National Stakes though did pick up pleasingly and looked to score with something in hand. However she goes today, she’ll be better at 6f I think.

    Really keen on Italian Girl in the last. Had plenty in hand at this track on her reappearance in a race that is working out well and one of a minority that doesn’t look handicapped to the hilt that can race off her correct mark. Clearly goes well here as the scene of both career wins. Will have a few quid on So Sweet in the same race at a massive price. Goes like a drop in trip will suit and could be rated much higher given how her fourth in the Chester Oaks has worked out.

    #65478
    naps
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    Royal Hunt Cup .. Capable Guest ew

    #65479
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    I agree Maxilon that some of the Cole horses are off the boil but the easy 2yo winner River Proud last week and Luck Moneys smart run in the coventry must give confidence.

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    Couldn’t have US Ranger; 6/4 and running over the wrong distance. Thousand Words, who on French Guineas form is about his equal, should be much better suited by this 7f, and at 14/1 would show a profit for the place.<br>I expect Dylan Thomas to be too good for these now he is back on his favoured ground, and Military Cross, who won last year’s Hunt Cup hands down on the stand side, looks to have an excellent chance.

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