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Every day they have an article about how bad the affordability checks will be
About how intrusive they will be and the millions they will cost racing
I just have a few points regarding this
Where are these black market sites they keep referring too that people will be going to to bet on. Any non licensed site iv ever seen doesn’t offer horse racing betting.
Does anyone really think someone who has lost say 5k-10k in a year really think they shouldn’t have to provide proof they can afford to lose that amount of money?
Should racing really be funded by people losing small fortunes betting?
Where are the daily articles about bookmakers restricting winning punters to pennies? To me this is the real issue not punters who are losing heavily being asked to provide proof they are betting within their means.
FF, the sudden plethora of articles is because the BHA and the Racing Post have finally woken up – about a year too late – to the impact affordability checks will have on the Levy that funds the racing model.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"RTV has woken up as well. I received an email about two weeks ago asking me to complete a survey about online betting and affordability checks.
They’re all waking up – too late.
The Racing Post Editor has finally run a comment piece – but he’s following, not leading.
They all sit on the fence and only jump
on bandwagons when they see everyone else doing it and it’s safe to do so.The impact on the Levy will be catastrophic for a sport which already has low prize money compared to many other countries.
Some say it was wrong to link the Levy to bookmaker profits – the old turnover-based method would have made it impossible for betting exchanges ever to exist.
The bookie (or betting operator to give the term that encompasses exchanges as well) profits are a direct measure of racing’s value to those betting operators and a Levy percentage is calculated accordingly.
And every long-term winning punter reduces the Levy – winning punters may not want to hear that but it’s a fact.
“Tote monopoly!” I usually hear someone cry at this point on the literally hundreds of occasions I have witnessed this debate over the years.
Does anyone really want that?
Bye bye all those ante-post threads and anything pertaining to fixed odds betting and value – we all bet blind into a pool with a big take out and the bigger your bet on a quiet day the lower the dividend if the horse even wins.
Losing punters – some of them heavily – have ALWAYS funded racing, that’s the game we’re all immersed in – sorry if that’s a rude awakening for anyone!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“Tote monopoly!” I usually hear someone cry at this point on the literally hundreds of occasions I have witnessed this debate over the years.
Does anyone really want that?”
Not me. In the unlikely event it ever happened, I would stop betting.
I would give up betting also; not sure what hobby would replace it though.
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“Should racing really be funded by people losing small fortunes betting?”
Punters are racing’s biggest financiers by some distance through betting, racecourse attendance and tv subscriptions. Without people betting on racing and thus providing finance to the sport and those involved in the industry, it would collapse. It is hardtop envisage a model (and I don’t think they exist globally) where a top class racing industry could be financed without some form of betting sourced income being a major component.
The problem in the UK is that we have bookmakers raking a large proportion of the punting pound, unlike other jurisdictions where the profits from betting are almost exclusively ploughed back into the sport.
888 now want proof of funds from me before I can deposit, being a student with a part time job I doubt they’d be happy with my income, even if I was still working full time I doubt I’d be happy sending them the required documents anyway.
My online accounts have been going down faster than the Bismarck the past few months!
‘I would give up betting also; not sure what hobby would replace it though.’
Erm…Dead Fly watching ?
Or… possibly recording all of Moehat’s masked covid early evening solitary country walks, and putting them in print.
Walking the Wainwright is stale news
WALKING THE MASK WITH MOE
( What our out walking Moe at dusk never realized, was that although there were no germs in her al fresco vicinity following her, there may well have been a distant pair of non racing bins doing just that, and recording her every move with an anorak attached. I will sell at a price )
I wish you hadn’t let that out cider pop – I’ve been trying to live a lie – I shall have to keep to the back streets now !
Tizzars* – you may have your first fan. I know where you live.
Tizz while we all know Gamble is as mad as mad hatter it’s the unwritten law on the forum that you don’t mention it , the deluge of voices in his head must be let out and the forum is his scribe to voice them , unfortunately when scribing all the voices are vying for his attention therefore you,ll get lines such as ” the owner of this years St Leger was presented with his winning pie by Sponge Bob , the trees swayed happily ” breaking this down he,s been watching the racing and is now watching his cartoons , nurse is giving him his desert and it’s windy outside his barred window causing the trees to sway , ah medication you say , sadly Gamble is now immune , they say he,s a medical marvel , even Bronson is scared of gamble
We aren’t sure how old gamble is , he states his father was a Hungarian and his mother a grand piano , he first came to light of the authorities in the mid 70s , he was living in the sea at this point ( rumour is he can be sighted in the opening credits of Reggie Perrin ) only coming ashore through hunger attacking ice cream sellers , in the 76 heatwave he was living of the North West coast , after attacks at Whitby and Scarborough he became know as the ” Yorkshire Ripple ” the hunt for him forced him South and he ended up ashore in Brighton assisting with the punch and judy show , alas when the punch and judy man took ill one day he had to take the show over …. a 10 min show ended up going on for 2 and half hours , subjects touched inc the gay love affair between Punch and Croc , how Judy was too right wing and was justifiably stoned to death …… and cricket , once again he was on the run , that night he first heard the song below while hiding in a pub bin, like Manson with the Beatles Gamble thought the song was directed straight to him , so began his Lyn Paul infatuation and the road to his incarceration …. and the reasoning to his crimes
“it’s the unwritten law on the forum that you don’t mention it”
100% THIS.^
I’ve “known” gamble online since 2001 and, whatever the platform, while it’s permissible to make indirect sanity inferences like: “I understand less than 10% of what you write” no one comes out and actually says: “you’re as mad an effing balloon, fella, and the sooner you’re carted off to Okehampton Funny Farm in a top-end quality strait jacket, the sooner it will be for all of us to walk London’s streets in safety again.”
Because, quite apart from being a blatant plagiarisation of both Blackadder and The Goodies, it would be dangerous – like looking directly at the Sun!
Protocol, TC, protocol!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Mr Wilson once called me a weirdo but spelt it wierdo
this also wasn’t long after he had posted a photo of a snowman with a carrot in the nether region
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I have to censure three of the four aforementioned gentlemen for defiling this fine and very pure inner sanctum of the forum – the holier than thou racing section, by posting their fanciful bile in the wrong place and at totally the wrong time. One can deviate on a Sunday, I suggest, or a short couple of posts in the earlies ( my two spanned 75 minutes in the witching hour), but only Tizzhisars* gets a clean bill of health – a short foully mouthed rebuke never does any harm at any time.
The Groundsman not to like together with The marmite blob of Hampshire and you ungracious Gnats are all jointly found guilty of posting inappropriate gibberish in this inner sanctum of the racing forum and its shining jewel and mainly read section.
Mr Jokey Wilson brought shame on St. Nicholas’s tradition and the centuries long Xmas spirit of goodwill, with his orange distastefully misplaced inappropriateness. End of story ! He’s gone taking the last train to Palookaville.
I will make a coffee and possibly continue with a more direct and pointed reply. I may of course not !
“it would be dangerous – like looking directly at the Sun!”
Look what’s been unleashed – case rested!
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