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    TimJames
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    This appears to be the new buzz word to sum up a certain type of runner that we used to refer to as a plain old ‘dodge’. Still, at least that other word that was beginning to bug ‘Aggressive’ seems to be on the wane

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    I’d say "quirky" is "a hint of temperament" Tim. Where as (my version) "dodgepot" is "quite a bit of temperament". I often back "quirky" horses, seldom "dodgepots".

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    TimJames
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    I think I recall, many many years ago, Timeform referring to one particular horse as ‘an arrant rogue’ :D

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    Timeform’s double-squiggle horses are nowadays described matter-of-factly as being "so temperamentally unsatisfactory to be not worth a rating" but until fairly recently it was they who were also attributed the splendid "an arrant rogue or thorough jade"

    Jade in this sense is an archaic term applied to a "a broken-down or useless horse" :)

    jade
    v. jad·ed, jad·ing, jades
    v.tr.
    To wear out, as by overuse or overindulgence. See Synonyms at tire1.
    v.intr.
    To become weary or spiritless.
    n.
    1. A broken-down or useless horse; a nag.
    2. A woman regarded as disreputable or shrewish.
    [From Middle English iade, cart-horse, nag; akin to Swedish dialectal jälda, mare, possibly of Finno-Ugric origin.]

    or

    jade
    n
    1. (Individual Sports & Recreations / Horse Training, Riding & Manège) an old overworked horse; nag; hack
    2. Derogatory or facetious a woman considered to be ill-tempered or disreputable
    vb
    to exhaust or make exhausted from work or use
    [of unknown origin]
    jadish adj
    jadishly adv
    jadishness n

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    Timeform’s double-squiggle horses are nowadays described matter-of-factly as being "so temperamentally unsatisfactory to be not worth a rating" but until fairly recently it was they who were also attributed the splendid "an arrant rogue or thorough jade"

    Back in the mid eighties, when I was cutting my betting teeth, those horses were simply known as "Ham Shankers"

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    TimJames
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    ‘Thorough Jade’, you have admire that one. Would you think it might have been Bull who came up with the two descriptions, that and ‘arrant rogue’ ?

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    The phrase is reminiscent of a Bullism and would certainly do him justice, though whether it pre-dates Timeform and appears in his own ‘Best Horses of…’ Annuals from the 1940s, I don’t know

    For that matter I don’t know whether the time-honoured (pun not really intended :) ) rating symbols – P p + $ $$ – were his or those of his partner Dick Whitford and other colleagues at Timeform

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    Are we talking about Mad "bad" Moose? (pictured this afternoon)

    http://www.ors-racing.co.uk/Images/Festivals/Ascot/2013/Ascot130622MadBadMooseSmall.jpg

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