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I know he has a huge fan club out there – so please explain to this old cynic why George Washington should be 13/8 fav. Darjina beat ( 3/1) him fair and square but I accept she will not perform so well if the going is on the easy side. Ramonti (9/2) has beaten him twice and will run on an anything as long as it is not too soft. He could win, perhaps, but 13/8 to reverse the form – is it an early April Fools joke?
If I laid horses this would be the lay of the season. George Washington has not put up one performance this season that entitles him to be favourite here.
If I laid horses this would be the lay of the season. George Washington has not put up one performance this season that entitles him to be favourite here.
Perhaps now is the time to start then if you are so bullish.
Count me as another one who is mystified by the QEII market. The form says that Darjina should be favoured with Ramonti and GW battling it out for second favouritism.
I say a false favourite. I too am baffled. Maybe the enemy know something we don’t.
They may be taking into account George Washington’s QE11 victory last season ans Darjina’s last Ascot outing when going down to Indian Ink in the Coronation Stakes, but the filly looked very impressive when defeating Ramonti and GW at Longchamps and I will definitely be siding with her again.
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Reminds me the Golden Betting Rules Cormack has posted. Another rule should be "Always try to beat the favorite!"
Have to admit to being a big fan of the horse. He was imperious in winning the race last year and fully deserved the crown of champion miler.
If you want to make excuses this year..
Queen Anne – ran very well considering he had just spent an unsuccessful stint in the covering shed and it was his first run since the Breeders the previous November.
Eclipse – a messy race and finished a head behind the current Arc favourite over a trip that may not be his best
Moulin – clearly a prep race and would have been much closer if settled closer to the pace
It seems that the QEII has been the target all year and clearly George still retains his class and blinding turn of foot.
However given his temprement and the opposition I dont think I’d be tempted at anything less than 3/1.
Well, you lot must have a very different take on his run at Longchamp than I: assuming GW is ridden properly this time and behaves himself I would fully expect him to reverse form with D and R. On the face of it, without delving deeper into the form lines 13/8 would be a BET.
Hopefully your views mirror the punter-at-large and a welcome drift will occur come Saturday. Should he reach 2/1 I may even be tempted into a rare fire-up on a Flat race.
Wouldn’t have been unduly surprised if GW had been introduced at Evs, frankly.
I always think that there is that threat of an electrifying run from GW. He just seems to have it in him but one win in seven tells its own story doesnt it?
Im less convinced than some about thios "Paris prep race stuff" (certainly pre race comments from Fallon were bullish). He finished well enough but i think it was another case of him not putting in all the parts required from him on the day
Are Frankies comments re Ramonti of interest i wonder?
“I think Ascot is tailor-made for him, a nice stiff mile,â€
I always think that there is that threat of an electrifying run from GW. He just seems to have it in him but one win in seven tells its own story doesnt it?
Im less convinced than some about thios "Paris prep race stuff" (certainly pre race comments from Fallon were bullish). He finished well enough but i think it was another case of him not putting in all the parts required from him on the day
Are Frankies comments re Ramonti of interest i wonder?
“I think Ascot is tailor-made for him, a nice stiff mile,â€
Always amazes me how people will take as gospel anything the so called experts will tell them yet completely disregard the evidence of their own eyes.
Anyone know what the going will be?
Depending on the ground, Ramonti looks overpriced to me.
Steve
However given his temprement and the opposition I dont think I’d be tempted at anything less than 3/1.
I’d agree with that, he’ll probably be nearer that on that day, I like the horse aswell but how the hell can he be favourite?
I don’t think you’ll get 3/1. I think the market is about right at present- looks a no-bet race. I have a feeling Ramonti will annoy me by winning again unbacked.
Always amazes me how people will take as gospel anything the so called experts will tell them yet completely disregard the evidence of their own eyes.
If thats referring to frankie, i dont think either myself or libertist is saying iot should be taken as "gospel" but he does ride the bloody thing and at the same time, i fail to see why what he says should be ignored either
Thats fair enough Clivex. We’ll have to agree to disagree on the Moulin. I’ve watched the race a dozen times and a prep race is my conclusion.
Frankie is always bullish about his mounts in big races although again to be fair Ramonti has been an unsung hero of this flat season and Godolphin have a done excellent job with him. His performance in the Sussex one of the highlights for me this year so far.
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