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Nothing to do with a lack of class then…
the ones she beat in the Diane havent to my knowledge competed in a Group 1 since.
What does that tell you?
Btw, Cellimene, last in the German Oaks…beaten 56 lengths when sent off the short-price favourite…
She never raced over a mile (guineas)
Precisely, she’s slow.
I know but me and many others saw in the Diane an incredible show of Speed Athletism and class that would rival STS performances over a mile and quarter.
You all need to give up the game IMO.
Zainta won the Saint Alary and Prix de Diane, finished 3rd in the Vermeille and then came 2nd last in the Arc.
In fact the only horse in the past 14 years to have been placed in the Arc after having been beaten in the Vermeille is Egyptband, 2nd in 2000.
Mentioning Zarkava and Stacelita in the same post, let alone paragraph or sentence, should be punishable by way of a ban.
Given a clearer run and chance to get stoked up earlier, Da Re Mi would have been able to give Stacelita another 6lb and a thorough beating[/color:3hqfrujm][/size:3hqfrujm] from what I saw.
Well well well I hope you watch the race again and see Stacelita easily took 2/3 lengths out of Da re mi. Whatever happened it wasn’t a thoruogh beating or i’ve lost my marbles. I will personally come on here and eat humble pie if Da re mi beats Stacelita in the Arc. Thats the most i can do because this is not in real life. 
I will personally come on here and eat humble pie if Da re mi beats Stacelita in the Arc. Thats the most i can do because this is not in real life.
Older fillies get 1lb extra from 3yo fillies than they get in the Vermeille
So Dar Re Mi is effectively 1 1/2L better than Stacelita on Sunday’s running. And that’s not even taking into account the fact that Stacelita got the run of the race.
If you fancy a match bet, PM me. But I’m not going to take your word or any crap like that. Zarkava was 2/1 after the Vermeille and I let someone give me 6/4 for £100 because I wanted to take his money. Surprise surprise, I’m still waiting for that £100 so I’d want the money sent to a trustworthy member of this forum – Cormack would be me suggestion. So PM me with the odds and how much you’re willing to part with if you fancy it.
As I’ve backed Da Re Mi e/w already, I’ll gladly take your money in a match bet to top it off nicely via PayPal.
Stacelita has nothing going for it whatsoever. Save your dough.
What do you mean by Stacelita got the run of the race?
If you had any sense then you would realise how hard it actually is to win top races from the front especially when you are trying a new distance for the first time.
It’s so much easier to be held up, conserve energy like Zarkava did and come through with a late run. But horses have different characteristics and are obviously influenced by their parents.
Stacelita too slow to win a guineas?
Where did you get that one from, just so you favourite queen can be pretty much rendered untouchable?As I’ve backed Da Re Mi e/w already, I’ll gladly take your money in a match bet to top it off nicely via PayPal.
Stacelita has nothing going for it whatsoever. Save your dough.
Haha what has Da re mi got going for it? She only beat a pacemaker who shouldn’t be supplemented.
Good bit of "Bitching" going on between you fillies,(Zarkava and Stacelita), it could just be a bit of PMT, (Paris mutual tension) as in a match between Dar re mi and Stacelita in the Arc,Stacelita would be odds on! Nothing to touch Zarkava in the breeding sheds mind,she would be number 1 choice for all breeders! I sometimes wish i called myself "Dancing Brave" instead of plain old TAPK,i would have you squaws a squealin!!
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As I’ve backed Da Re Mi e/w already, I’ll gladly take your money in a match bet to top it off nicely via PayPal.
Stacelita has nothing going for it whatsoever. Save your dough.
He’d be better taking your bet than backing her each way that’s for sure.
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An Anti-British i feel is in French Racing.
How Dylan Thomas kept his ARC and Dar Re Mi didnt is one that would puzzle even the most ardent French Racing Fans.
That Stunk today
The French are the French Wallace and they did disqualify one of their own in the Arc and to worse critisism than they got for this. Just their rules mate and nothing to do with anti anything. If that was a widespread worry nothing would race there.
Stacelita too slow to win a guineas?
Where did you get that one from, just so you favourite queen can be pretty much rendered untouchable?Oh believe me, I don’t spend my time thinking about Stacelita’s negative points to make sure she’s uncomparable with Zarkava. She wouldn’t even be comparable with Zarkava had she won the Vermeille on merit.
But quite frankly, several fillies have attempted the Pouliches and Diane double and several have succeeded.
So quite frankly, if connections thought she was fast enough, she would have run in the Pouliches.
But she didn’t, so obviously she’s not.
Stacelita, clearly you’re a big fan, but Stacelita has nothing on Zarkava and is not the next born equine daughter of christ. Zarkava would have beat her on 3 legs and several contenders in the arc will do just fine with 4.
Stacelita, clearly you’re a big fan, but Stacelita has nothing on Zarkava and is not the next born equine daughter of christ. Zarkava would have beat her on 3 legs and several contenders in the arc will do just fine with 4.
I’ve never said Stacelita has anything on Zarkava because they 2 complete opposite horses in terms of racing style.
Clearly you don’t seem to realise Stacelita is in a world of her own when the going is soft and quite possibly 10-15 pounds better than she is on good.
Look at the Saint Alary, the last time she raced on soft where Lemaire actually admitted thinking there had been a false start because of the ease of her win and he said she expanded as much energy as she would in a morning canter.Oh believe me, I don’t spend my time thinking about Stacelita’s negative points to make sure she’s uncomparable with Zarkava. She wouldn’t even be comparable with Zarkava had she won the Vermeille on merit.
But quite frankly, several fillies have attempted the Pouliches and Diane double and several have succeeded.
So quite frankly, if connections thought she was fast enough, she would have run in the Pouliches.
But she didn’t, so obviously she’s not.
Obviously Rouget has never had a horse quite as talented with his limited funds so he could’ve have known for sure how good she was, but the same horses who finished close up in the pouliches Tamazirte and Fantasia were beaten easily (probably on the bridle) even if they didn’t quite get the trip. This shows she would’ve hacked up in the Pouliches.
You know what the Russians say?
‘If” didn’t happen.
‘If she’d run in the Pouliches’ just means ‘she didn’t run in the Pouliches’.
You were telling us 3 months ago this horse was going to destroy the Arc field and she couldn’t even beat Dar Re Mi, so forgive me for doubting your expertise.
And I’ve really never gotten my head around using form over 1m 2 1/2f to prove superiority over the same rivals at a mile.
I will gladly take you on with Da re mi in the Arc. And you’re right she didn’t run the Pouliches but you yourself said she was too slow to win. Rouget already had Elusive Wave who won and Tamazirte who finished 2nd as genuine milers.
If I can’t use the Diane form then there is nothing to prove my point. However you are incredibly biased in your opinion in saying she is too slow to win. Can you please back your opinion up with evidence.I’m incredibly biased? Excuse me?
All I’ve ever done and all I’ll ever do is tell it like I see it. All I ever want is for the best horse or team to win. If I lose money, I don’t care, because the best won.
Ok, my evidence is as follows;
Stacelita has never raced over less than 9 furlongs.
In the past 6 years Zarkava and Divine Proportions completely the Pouliches-Diane double. They were fast. Stacelita is not. She is a slow-boat.
PM me if you’re serious about the Dar Re Mi bet and please include all the info I asked for.
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