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Well done to all those who backed
Workforce
today,you all have the ability to see that his King George run was never his true running and have obviously stayed loyal to his awesome Derby performance and the fact he does have the scope for further improvement,some of us even knew he prefers softer ground and had Harbinger turned up today he would have failed like those who hated the ground! A gutsy victory from a brave horse who never let his inexperience bother him! 5/1 for next years Arc is short but he will go through the season unbeaten and win anything connections should choose! Thanks for all the complimentary remarks from those who recognise talent themselves, Horse and Human and to those who keep trying to knock me off my branch,You know who you are,keep trying,You"ll need a bigger stick now!
The King has got his hat on hip hip hip Hooray…
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Back on the Laptop got internet working but would like to start off on TAPT,Unlike some people I wont ruin the forum by endless **** talking, ok mate you put up a winner you don’t see the other half a dozen people run around messing the forum up trying tell everyone you’re the greatest thing since sliced bread because this website is full of intelligent Racing fans do I don’t see who you’re trying to market yourself too?
Anyway enough of that muppet,
It was a fine ride by Ryan Moore don’t you think? Longchamp such a deceiving racecourse and Ryan must of been shaking inside as it took some nerve to hold out as long as he did and found a perfect gap for his braveness.
What are peoples thoughts on the form, I don’t really work in that way although I’ll analyse the times tonight for a report in morning.
Don’t go over the top TAPK. That’s enough gloating.
Workforce won well, but he is not as good as Harbinger, at least not yet.
Value Is Everythingyes well done workforce backers. also well done to the festa tippers, 22/1 2nd. zarkava, peter h moehat etc !!
TAPK, struggling to read your posts … can’t concentrate on the text … everytime I try to read the words all I hear is an awful screeching noise similar to fingernails scraping down an old blackboard … F is for Foresight … G is for Gloating … H is for Humility
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It was a fine ride by Ryan Moore don’t you think? Longchamp such a deceiving racecourse and Ryan must of been shaking inside as it took some nerve to hold out as long as he did and found a perfect gap for his braveness.
What are peoples thoughts on the form, I don’t really work in that way although I’ll analyse the times tonight for a report in morning.
Not so sure about it being such a fine ride, Mr W?
RM got himself into a pocket that the likes of Mick Kinane and Keiren Fallon would probably have avoided in the first place, and happened to have enough horse to get him out of it.
Rock solid form though (imo). The ground was no worse than g/s, and the time wasn’t great, but well up to normal Arc standard from a form persepective. The Japanese form isn’t easy to weigh up (though he’s obviously a star in his own country), Sarafina maintained her overall progress (as with he 2nd, treating her last run as the warm-up it patently was), and the best of the French middle distance 3yo old colts given a 6/7 lb beating.
Fame And Glory ran much the same race as last year – on ground probably slightly more in his favour – and with a good gp2 winner btn over 6l in 6th, the form looks bound to stand up in future.
Once again, the Irish 3yo md form was upheld as decidedly ordinary, with their ‘star’ – Cape Blanco – being beaten before stamina ever became an issue, and I’ll stick to my original position; that he’s overrated for his last run and will never again run near to such a rating.
Workforce is clearly the high class horse SMS always believed, and having been so lightly raced, could have the World at his feet next season, though, as someone has already said, difficult to see what else he has to prove, and the breeding shed may beckon sooner rather than later. As it stands, he’s clearly the best 12f 3yo in Europe at the moment, with only Sarafina having any pretensions of being anywhere close to him (Do hope she runs in the Champion
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All imo, of course.Gerald Mosse surprisingly thought that the interference didn’t bother his mount so badly. I’m not sure why to be honest, it let her catch her breath for a final sprint, but she went from being on Behkabad’s back to having to pull wide and looked at least 4L off that horse in the stretch? But would have been tough for Sarafina to challenge the first 2 on Mosse’s comment.
Behkabad had nowhere to go until the 300, and I can’t tell for sure that it halted him but it definitely looked like he got squeezed up at the 200. I think it probably halted him since it looked like he was going to pick up Cavalryman pretty quickly but after the contact he had to slowly grind that horse down. Fame got smashed by Planteur, but with his turn of foot he probably couldn’t have won.
As for the race’s form, it looks solid but nothing spectacular. We know how good Nakayama Festa is through Buena Vista, who he upset narrowly before coming to France. Buena Vista was terribly unlucky to lose to Da Re Mi and I think with a clear run should have beat that horse by at least a length (maybe more) in the Dubai Sheema Classic. Nakayama Festa is around Buena Vista’s (one of the best 3 12f horses in Japan) level. Unlikely that Nakayama Festa improved bundles on the softish ground based on her form in Japan.
Da Re Mi probably ran near her best in last year’s Arc (beat Stacelita again, 1L behind Conduit who beat her by 3L when she got squeezed up in the BC Turf off a faster pace) and the Sheema.I think that’s a pretty solid formline but some of you probably have other views on this. I think this year’s race may have been more slowly run which would affect the beaten margins.
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Where"s Chiswickian?
Right here where I’ll always be Princess. I’m happy with my results on Arc day. You should simply be happy with yours. But sadly you can’t be. You feel there’s more to gain from bombarding the entire audience with your bad taste. Obviously one of lifes big losers. I feel sad for you. Perhaps some of your winnings could go to have the nasty chip removed from your shoulders.
Where"s Chiswickian?
Right here where I’ll always be Princess. I’m happy with my results on Arc day. You should simply be happy with yours. But sadly you can’t be. You feel there’s more to gain from bombarding the entire audience with your bad taste. Obviously one of lifes big losers. I feel sad for you. Perhaps some of your winnings could go to have the nasty chip removed from your shoulders.
Look at the above quote, Its the man in the mirror! You epitomise the Mug punter who gets frustrated at being unable to find a winner so you attack those who are winners,thats human nature for those who suffer from jealous rages! My Posts prove i am certainly not one of lifes big losers, au contraire my dear!You feel sad because you are a sad person because of your own insecurities,some of my winnings will go to Cancer charities so i dont need to spend a penny on myself thanks! Oh dear i hear the sound of breaking glass! Your Mirror broke Chizzy?
It was a fine ride by Ryan Moore don’t you think? Longchamp such a deceiving racecourse and Ryan must of been shaking inside as it took some nerve to hold out as long as he did and found a perfect gap for his braveness.
What are peoples thoughts on the form, I don’t really work in that way although I’ll analyse the times tonight for a report in morning.
Not so sure about it being such a fine ride, Mr W?
RM got himself into a pocket that the likes of Mick Kinane and Keiren Fallon would probably have avoided in the first place, and happened to have enough horse to get him out of it.
Rock solid form though (imo). The ground was no worse than g/s, and the time wasn’t great, but well up to normal Arc standard from a form persepective. The Japanese form isn’t easy to weigh up (though he’s obviously a star in his own country), Sarafina maintained her overall progress (as with he 2nd, treating her last run as the warm-up it patently was), and the best of the French middle distance 3yo old colts given a 6/7 lb beating.
Fame And Glory ran much the same race as last year – on ground probably slightly more in his favour – and with a good gp2 winner btn over 6l in 6th, the form looks bound to stand up in future.
Once again, the Irish 3yo md form was upheld as decidedly ordinary, with their ‘star’ – Cape Blanco – being beaten before stamina ever became an issue, and I’ll stick to my original position; that he’s overrated for his last run and will never again run near to such a rating.
Workforce is clearly the high class horse SMS always believed, and having been so lightly raced, could have the World at his feet next season, though, as someone has already said, difficult to see what else he has to prove, and the breeding shed may beckon sooner rather than later. As it stands, he’s clearly the best 12f 3yo in Europe at the moment, with only Sarafina having any pretensions of being anywhere close to him (Do hope she runs in the Champion ).
All imo, of course.You have got Cape Blanco’s race all wrong, by saying he was beat before stamina was a question you are no doubt challenging his class, but it’s clear Soumillion stops riding him altogther when Planteur causes interference. Out of all horses impeded Cape Blanco looks to have suffered the most, he needed two horses to help him regain his balance cause he would have been too far left of the track. You not hear AOB after the race he was furious.
I actually missed the race due to family commitments. On review, I thought Ryan Moore gave Workforce one helluva ride. SMS is either a training genius or a sly old fox, or both !
I did think that my selection, Behkabad, was quite unlucky in running, as was Sarafina, along with Fame and Glory. All three, arguably, could have finished closer to the winner had they not met with traffic problems.
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I’d agree that the distance beaten wasn’t his true form – owing to the interference – but he was clearly well beaten, even before this occurence.I actually missed the race due to family commitments. On review, I thought Ryan Moore gave Workforce one helluva ride. SMS is either a training genius or a sly old fox, or both !
I did think that my selection, Behkabad, was quite unlucky in running, as was Sarafina, along with Fame and Glory. All three, arguably, could have finished closer to the winner had they not met with traffic problems.
When "Himself" comments i listen,he is never one over stating his opinion and is as good a judge as anyone,he"s a bit of a Grey man but thats because he knows the difference between Black and White! Anyone who thinks Ryan Moore rode a poor race knows less about racing than they realise!He came from a nightmare position and would have been one of those racing certaintys that get beat because of bad luck,he rode with balls of steel and an ice cool temperament to match! "Reet" just admit it you hate Fame and Glory nearly as much as you hate taking me on!
He didn’t seem beat, granted he was shaken up a long way from home but he was keeping up with Soumillion’s urgings, he kept up with the Japanese horse until he got his shove, he was 4th when it happened, think he could have been in the Top 5 at least.
With how the going was against him here he was doing a very good job until being unlucky.
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TAPK
I don’t ‘hate’ FAG anymore than I ‘hate’ taking you on – just recognise a boring old boat when I see one.
For the record, you called 3 horses for the Arc, I correctly predicted exactly what would happen to each of them (even down to the exact number that would finish in front of Youmzain).
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!TAPK
I don’t ‘hate’ FAG anymore than I ‘hate’ taking you on – just recognise a boring old boat when I see one.
For the record, you called 3 horses for the Arc, I correctly predicted exactly what would happen to each of them (even down to the exact number that would finish in front of Youmzain).
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!Never smoked in my life,apparently some people smoke after Sex!!
They must be doing it wrong!
Well done on your above bit of Prophecy even naming how many horses will finish in front of Youmzain too eh! WoW Are you the Spread betting King or what?FIST, you went to great length to explain the failure of Workforce following the Derby. But consider Sea the Stars. Was he not at his peek for the Derby and it never effected his career. I just want to say that I believe that there was another reason for his poor performance which you seem to have overlooked. The ride he got in the Derby as compared to the ride STS got.Never during his 3yo days did Kinane ask for more from from his mount than was required to win the race.Moore could have won the Derby comfortably without using up his horse like he did at Epsom.It more than anything led to his needing a long rest after the Derby.Nobody seems to have noticed this .
The King has got his hat on hip hip hip Hooray…
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