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  • #21663
    darren83
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    Hills have opened a market they have CAMELOT at 8/1 fav i expect him to lose this week so price be bigger.But this a simple race just focus on the 3yos.The horses i like so far

    BEAUTY PARLOUR 16/1

    Been talked about being as good as Zarkava those she got a long way to go she is built for 1m4 she got nice speed as well.

    IMPERIAL MONARCH 33/1

    Though he prefer cut in the ground i think this is a top class horse who will get better as the season goes on.

    #402769
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I also like the look of Beauty Parlour, a potential superstar?…… :wink:

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #402772
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Current shortlist is Camelot, Galikova and athaniel.

    #403380
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Current shortlist is Camelot, Galikova and athaniel.

    Should have gotten on much earlier. Whoops!

    #403402
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    At 25s, I’m happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

    #403468
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    At 25s, I’m happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

    If he turns up he will be a short favourite, so see you logic, has HRAC said anything about Frankel running? If he is even a 20% chance I would definitely take the risk.

    #403492
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    At 25s, I’m happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

    If he turns up he will be a short favourite, so see you logic, has HRAC said anything about Frankel running? If he is even a 20% chance I would definitely take the risk.

    Cecil’s said nothing as far as I know. Just a hunch of mine that he will get that far – there’s nothing in his breeding to suggest he won’t, he’ll be stronger this year and more relaxed so, like you, I think he’s well worth a small investment in the hope the hunch proves right.

    #403511
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Frankel may well get the trip but would he get is on a plane/boat to France?

    The only way I can see him going for the Arc is if he hasn’t won over 12f beforehand. Let’s say for example Frankel won a poorly contested King George over 12f why would Henry then take the risk of running him in the Arc, the toughest race in the world and him possibly losing his unbeaten record?

    I recon business done they’d drop him back to 10f and go Breeders or Champion Stakes to end his career.

    I think his price reflects more that he is unlikely to run rather than stay.

    #403522
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    At 25s, I’m happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

    Joe there’s more chance of

    Sir des Champs

    running in the Arc than

    Frankel

    and thats only because he’s got a french name! :shock: Besides I’m not sure the RSPCA would let a horse who’s stamina is so much in question actually run! :shock: :lol:

    #403525
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    Well Noble Mission certainly stays……just because he’s brilliant over a mile Gord doesn’t mean he wont get further. Frankel has so much class and he’s bound to be less playful a year on…with him anything is possible.

    It’s Henry I worry about when it comes to the Arc he point blank refused to run Midday in the race despite the act the form book said she should. He simply doesn’t like the race, he’s never won it and most likely never will.

    #403532
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Well Noble Mission certainly stays……just because he’s brilliant over a mile Gord doesn’t mean he wont get further. Frankel has so much class and he’s bound to be less playful a year on…with him anything is possible.

    ‘Noble Mission’ really is nothing like his brother Hurdy.When a horse wins the 2000gns in the style

    Frankel

    did tells you instantly he wont stay,No horse has that sort of speed over a mile and the stamina to win over 11/2m,just look at all the 11/2m horses who did win the Guineas,None won like that,not even the greatest of them all,’The Brave One’!
    My idea of this years Arc Winner is a horse…………Yes a horse……..The only horse to get within 1/2l of the monster they call ‘Frankel’………..A horse who has beaten an Arc Winner in ‘Workforce’………..A beast of a horse who has strengthened up into an imposing 4yo………..His name is …

    NAAAAAAAAAAATHAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEL

    25/1 wont last long now! 8)

    #403540
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    After 3 consecutive foreign trained winners, what price a French trained winner?

    #403802
    Avatar photoLong Run
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    Camelot & Beauty Parlour would be my picks atm. Imperial Monarch also interesting I agree Darren

    #407976
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    Now scratching around for a bit of value among the French 3yo. Nathan is very keen on Beauty Parlour although it is very difficult to dissect her pedigree and come out any the wiser. Deep Impact has made an excellent start at stud but his progeny seem to stay better when coming from mares who did not stay as well as he did. This may of course be due to the different styles of racing in Japan where most of his progeny have run.
    Regardless of what might be expected, her current price of around 12/1 makes limited appeal as she has yet to race over further than a mile.

    Andre Fabre trains

    Masterstroke

    for Godolphin. The son of Monsun and Melikah is bred for the job. He ran well enough in the Hocquart and a suitably light campaign bringing him back for the Prix Niel could pay dividends. Time to see what price can be matched on the machine.

    #407981
    moehat
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    What’s Snow Fairy up to these days?

    #407994
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    She was injured late last year and was reported to being aimed towards an autumn campaign.

    #408347
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    A bit disappointed to see Masterstroke running this afternoon, presumably as a prep for the Grand Prix de Paris next month. I’d much rather M. Fabre had put him away till the autumn. Such is life!

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