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  • #121390
    Breath Of Fresh Ayr
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    Ryan Moore’s got to win Ride Of The Year for Notnowcato in to Eclipse.

    Balls, Brains and Stacks of Ability!

    #121391
    Prufrock
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    Thanks for all the feedback. The idea at this stage is to get the categories and the nominations right, but not to vote on them just yet!

    I imagine releasing a couple of these polls a week starting some time in November.

    Keep the suggestions coming!

    #121394
    dave jay
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    I think there should be a newbie of the year Pru .. someone who joined this calendar year.

    #121396
    Prufrock
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    That’s a good idea: I nominate thedarkknight.

    #121402
    Gareth Flynn
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    Sir Michael Stoute – Sustained excellence at the highest levels of the sport without the massive Arab/Irish firepower.

    I didn’t realise until I looked now just how many of his top earners are Cheveley Park-owned.

    #121406
    Avatar photosberry
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    with over a hundred meetings per year for punters, lingfield is a shocking omission in the racecourse category

    #121411
    Avatar photoBurroughhill
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    I’d add graysonscolumn to the list for poster of the year.

    And WHY Tango man?

    #121418
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    Who is going to decide who should be put up for poster of the year? Maybe those who have made the most postings throughout the year whoever they are :lol: should be put up with voters deciding on quality etc.

    To follow up Burroughhill’s query, who and why was Chapman put up for broadcaster of the year? Surely this threatens to destroy the whole credibility of the polls and whoever put him up should be named and shamed imo.

    #121421
    Prufrock
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    I put Matt Chapman up. I put him up because beyond the tomfoolery and the showboating he is knowledgeable and professional (though my vote is likely to go elsewhere), which seems to irk people who would simply like to dismiss him as a fool.

    And I put him up because I thought it would provoke a response. It seems I was right. 8)

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    Prufrock
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    On Poster of The Year I was hoping that there might be some sort of a consensus. There hasn’t been so far, and I think it may be best to drop this category. There is enough mutual back-slapping in this game already without us adding to it.

    #121424
    Gareth Flynn
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    In the ride of the year category, at the risk of splitting his vote what about Ryan Moore on Papal Bull in the Princess of Wales?

    #121426
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    Tim Vaughan & Tom Dascombe are two up & coming trainers who should be followed.

    Not a bad call on Vaughan. I was reticent to describe him as up and coming trainer earlier in the summer, primarily because he’d had a similar good start to his Rules training career in spring 2005 (a win at the first attempt with Lonesome Man at Aintree, I seem to recall), before experiencing two very fallow years.

    This upturn seems a lot more sustained, however, as evinced by Brinkmanship going in again at Ludlow yesterday, and I now presume that either some lurge, or the distractions of still riding and training in point-to-points at the same time (something he has scaled down since), must have checked progress after that bright start.

    Very good shouts on Linda Jewell and John Long, I think. Thoughts are with the latter at the moment, as he recovers from a stroke suffered around a fortnight ago.

    Jeremy
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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    with over a hundred meetings per year for punters, lingfield is a shocking omission in the racecourse category

    It wasn’t written down in such terms anywhere, but I think the thinking behind that category was to celebrate any course that had shown either a demonstrable improvement this year, or simply(!) maintained a notably high quality of service to racegoers and punters.

    Ostensibly putting on a meeting once every three days on average does constitute a great service to punters, but I wonder how we’d square nominating Lingfield for doing that barely a year after Wolverhampton was criticised for taking on a similar workload (especially when there was that spate of jockey spills and equine fatalities).

    That’s not an early bath for your nomination of the track, you understand, rather just positing a likely counter-argument. I suspect you’ll also know better than me whether Lingfield’s prizemoney, provision of classy races, etc has actually improved in 2007 or has basically been More Of The Same.

    I’m probably going to surprise a few people here now, by admitting that I didn’t nominate Cartmel for the list – I was on the loo whilst that was committed to paper. I’m not unhappy to see it there, obviously, especially as this year has represented the first in a long time where any of Lord Cavendish’s "war chest" has been devoted to improving prizemoney to any extent (there were three Class 3 contests at the venue this year compared to just one last), but its efforts still don’t come anywhere close to Market Rasen’s in this regard, as far as I’m concerned.

    Come to think of it, I’d probably want to nominate the executive at Hexham (in particular, but not necessarily limited to, Charles Enderby) as Villain of the Year, for their repeated failure to out all of the Levy money they were offered into the prizemoney pot, with the result that – quel surprise – they’re now going to have that money slashed to pitiful levels as part of the Levy’s economy drive hereafter. Shameful.

    Jeremy
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    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #121476
    Ugly Mare
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    I’d like to see a ‘Punter of the Year’ as I always think we leave ourselves out of it so often and yet we bankroll so much of it [do we not?].

    I think some of those individual Scoop 6 people deserve a mention here, as they have more merit than the syndicates and although back at the start of the year, I thought it great television when Washer Woman Mrs Agnes Haddock won over £600,000 for a £2 outlay with her unorthodox methods, and much to the chagrin of some professionals it seems.
    Quoting Greg Wood of the Guardian, Feb 6th:-

    "As one sniffy contributor to The Racing Forum put it: "Has our culture really stooped to the level where we give a large amount of airtime to someone that got lucky with their pinsticking?"

    now who was that?..lol

    Well, to me this was a t.v. highlight of the year and better than anything reality television could come up with, as this was at least Real! :D

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    On Poster of The Year I was hoping that there might be some sort of a consensus. There hasn’t been so far, and I think it may be best to drop this category. There is enough mutual back-slapping in this game already without us adding to it.

    Indeed.

    My nomination for Poster of the Year would be all those from a largely silent membership of 4850 who actually bother to contribute

    All are equal but some are more equal than others Prufrock :wink:

    #121498
    apracing
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    Surely Great Leighs is shoo-in for racecourse of the year. Fifty one fixtures in 2007 and I haven’t backed a single loser there.

    AP

    #121510
    jilly
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    MOST MISSED FORUMITE OF THE YEAR…

    Three-Way Tie

    [b:39h0fsmp]GAMBLE

    JILLY[BLUSH]

    IAN DAVIES[/b:39h0fsmp]

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