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As we are coming to the back end of the 2009 flat season on turf and now the jump season proper is fast approaching we are now looking at which horses can carve out a career at stud. Has anyone on this forum seen a flat horse in training who could become a good jumping stallion who has an abundance of a bit of speed but most importantly of all has bags of stamina which is important for future offspring which can handle 3 mile chases on bottomless ground. I have come up with a list of racehorses which I might think can become the next Presenting or Be My Native in 10 to 15 years time see what you think about the chances to these becoming a successful NH sire:
Age of Aquarius
Tartarn Bearer
Ask
Doctor Fremantle
Kite Wood
Casual Conquest
Patkai
Twice Over
Septimus
Rip Van Winkle
Paco Boy
Youmzain
Gan AhmrasCan anyone suggest any other flat horse that I have not mentoned that could be a potential NH sire.
Paco Boy no chance- 7f or mile horse
RVW- Ballydoyle would go into apoplexy at the thought!
Twice Over- best at up to 10f so probably breed short runners
I’d plump for Patkai out of that lot. He might be more of an outcross than the others.
Btw, there have been plenty of good NH stallions who were best at 10f, or less – Flamenco was a miler and Strong Gale a 9/10f horse.
Red Rum, Desert Orchid, Comedy Of Errors and Hardy Eustace are all by sprinters or sprinter/milers.
And don’t forget Arkle, Golden Miller, Pendil and Flagship Uberalles were all by stallions who never won a race over
any
distance, so there’s hope for them all, I suppose.
Yeats is the obvious one.
AOB has often said that he has an enormous heart – biologically speaking. Is heart size relative to ability or stamina in any way?
I wonder what trip Yeats’ progeny would require over the sticks ?
"A test of stamina" says I.
AOB never ramps horses to suit the needs of Coolmore of course!!
Sadly anything on the flat that wins at >8f* is automatically dismissed as a jumps sire these days – or exported. One of the reasons I lost interest some years ago.
*unless bred in the purple by a Coolmore stallion.
I’m assuming that the Prix du Cadran is on the Saturday, and not been moved to the Sunday.
Pointilliste
is entered in that and the Arqana sale at St Cloud on the same day.
Half-brother to Peintre Celebre.
A bit unusual to have Storm Cat AND Raise A Native AND Habitat in a NH Stallion pedigree though.
Defineately Age of Aquarius, he already looks like a 3m chaser! Aussie Rules throws a strapping yearling already,i will keep an eye on his progeny!
I’m assuming that the Prix du Cadran is on the Saturday, and not been moved to the Sunday.
Pointilliste
is entered in that and the Arqana sale at St Cloud on the same day.
Half-brother to Peintre Celebre.
A bit unusual to have Storm Cat AND Raise A Native AND Habitat in a NH Stallion pedigree though.
Pointilliste is now a hurdler in Noel Meade’s yard.
He still has a h next to him, rather than a g, if anyone wants to rescue him and introduce him to a life of debauchery.
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