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I do think some of the Nicholls horses are out of form at the moment, for whatever reason. I don’t, however, think a virus put Kauto Star through the birch upright of the third last at Haydock, nor do I think it ejected Sam from the plate of either Big Bucks or Nakai.
That said, Sam did receive an unfair amount of stick in the press.
Kauto wasn’t, in my view, running to a good deal of his previous form – I don’t know whether that is due to some temporary affliction or what. I do think, though, that the mistake at the third last was a significant one and I do think that it was avoidable.
Before anyone mentions Silverburn the horse is overated and often priced up based on who his brother’s are.
Silverburn runs a stinker at Exeter.
Does the perceived poor form of the yard have anything to do with the return to the saddle of Ruby?.
Colin
AP, see Irish Stamp’s post. It’s similar to a diluted version of my profanity-laden rant at "the most over-rated dual Grade 1 winner there has ever been" in my office.
Might well be Friggo, but by losing 20l. Im only on about Nicholls’s form, im not blabbing on about how good the horse is or how overated he is
I wonder if the abundance of wind operations Nicholl’s has had done on his runners before this season is having an affect?
I noted at the start of the season that he had made a point of giving a much larger number in his care wind-ops than usual – seemingly some kind of experiment.
Most of his runners have gone well first time out this season, but it’s been apparent to me over the past couple of months that those runners having their second start have been running well below form.
Perhaps the first run back after a wind-op has done some deeper damage and this has been transpiring on their second start – like the runners after the op hadn’t had long enough to recover/convalece?
Just a theory of mine (would love to see a list of which horses have had the wind-op this season).
The strike rate is fine; it’s most probably lemmings backing his horses into ridiculously short prices which leads to topics like this.
I think purely half of Paul Nicholls horses (thats being liberal) are sent off bad prices simple as that. If you look through the stats before today he has had 33 runners (if i counted right) and 21 went off favourite 7 favourites won, that doesn’t seem all that bad, you can’t seriously expect all of those to win.
You look through the RP stats and Paul Nicholls strike rate is fine and they’re winning as much as they should, Noland, Master Minded, What A Friend to name a few. Star De Mohaison ran a blinder only 6 days ago when he has had the world of problems for 2 years.
The strike rate is fine; it’s most probably lemmings backing his horses into ridiculously short prices which leads to topics like this.
Stalker!
Its not my fault you "lost the dressing room" on your other little site.
Now be a good boy and run along would you.
This is a little bit rich, firefox, given your sub-millisecond responses a few weeks back whenever clivex posted.
Now be a good boy and be nice, would you.
Nicholls is in good enough form at the moment. Has had a reasonable amount of winners, plenty of placed efforts and others who’ve run well. May be there is a case he is not in top form of a few weeks back, nothing yet to put me off backing his horses. Nobody can continue in good form for ever and every trainer will have a lean spell.
Mark
Value Is Everything"the most over-rated dual Grade 1 winner there has ever been"
Hors La Loi III ?
I liked him, and picked him for the Champion Hurdle, but not the one he won.
Only time will tell I guess, you lovely man you!
Read this, thought of;
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Firefox,
You started a thread which, imo, has no or little substance. As Nicholls strike rate is at a healthy 25%, the only possible issue can be you view these short priced horses of his as underperforming, instead of the fact they are clearly underpriced due to various amounts of hype (I refer you to Hebridean and Silverburn, for example).
If you want to start a topic, you should expect (or hope) someone to reply to them. I have replied to 3/4 of your posts so I am not sure as to your issue.
Fwiw, I took no side against you in any debate; like many others, I just find you to be a prat.
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