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Bluechariot, if you think big bookmakers possess such information then I think you are misguided. If a "snout" knows a horse won’t be winning, why would he sell that information to a bookmaker when he could clean up himself?
Come on – take off your bookmakers rose tinted spectacles – we all know it goes on – why deny it?
The problems is you bookies have had it all your own wayfor so long and you don’t like someone else pi$$ing on your parade.
There is a simple solution – ban all laying of horses.
Dare I ask what bookmakers are supposed to do then?
I knew someone would pipe in with that obvious retort – but you know exactly what I am alluding to – PUNTERS betting on horses to lose !
The genie is already out of the bottle the clock cannot be turned back – if exchanges were outlawed in the UK it would just go offshore.
Anyway it has always been possible to lay a horse – even before exchanges.
I am also a Wallace and GROMIT fan
and they are even talked about in these
quaint parisienne mocha stained streets.We live in a very reactive world
wait for something bad and…do something Gromit
The Bair has HAMMY head banging sessions
where the weird and wonderful is served up
in open plan on an imaginary plate
and they look around the table at each other
and say well, erm we would do this or
well,erm we could do that
and they sleep better
and feel better prepared.They have even intimated favourably to
possible FSA control should it ever come in the future.
Ten points but..the spectre
of the hairy horned laying beast
will never quite go away.
Rather than seeing how it might react
disfavourably to hurt them
in the ‘nth scenario
they need to grapple with it
floor it, bag it, and put it to bed.I am also non sugar .
There is a simple solution – ban all laying of horses.
Dare I ask what bookmakers are supposed to do then?
I knew someone would pipe in with that obvious retort – but you know exactly what I am alluding to – PUNTERS betting on horses to lose !
Himself
You could easily have covered your back on that one. Assuming you meant that layers should be defined by licensing them, then yes that is a perfectly reasonable view but, as you inferred yourself, not a cat in hell’s chance of it happening.
As a punter I often back a group of horses to oppose the favourite. This is no more that ‘laying’ with what I consider to be the no-hopers stripped out. If a favourite is Evens and you want to ‘lay it’ with bookmakers then you just back everything else to proportional stakes. Hey presto, not a lay anywhere yet you have laid the favourite. This option has been available to backers since bookmaking began.
It would be possible to do a similar sort of thing in a Pari-Mutuel or Tote market though returns would be less certain, but as long as the ‘lay horse’ is short enough and you are happy it will lose then it should be posible to turn over a decent profit.
Rob
It is as acceptable as the bookies paying snouts for information and laying accordingly
Bluechariot, if you think big bookmakers possess such information then I think you are misguided. If a "snout" knows a horse won’t be winning, why would he sell that information to a bookmaker when he could clean up himself?
I think you might have misinterpreted Blue Chariot’s comments. I took them to mean bookies, like Powder Puff, paying the biggest snout in the trough for the ‘information’ that the SP won’t be very competitive and then laying Best Odds Guaranteed.
Re-read it, it makes sense in this context.
In any case, we all know that THERE IS NO DOUBT that bookies are vehicles for inside information.
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