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    raymo61raymo61
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    That is just superb studying Charlie :good: :good:

    I love the stats stuff and I am sure I will be influenced by your studies!!

    Lets hope they chuck some good winners at us :good: :good:

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    Very kind words from you all, hope you find them useful

    Richard Johnson to follow….

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    Richard Johnson Handicap Performance 2008 – 2018

    Year / Position / Horse / Price / Trainer

    Wins in bold
    Placed 2-4 in italics

    Ultima
    2017 / 10th / A Good Skin / 14/1 / T R George
    2016 / 5th / Kruzhlinin / 9/1 / P J Hobbs
    2015 / PU / Lamb Or Cod / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 7th / Ackertac / 20/1 / Tim Vaughan
    2013 / 11th / Planet of Sound / 40/1 / P J Hobbs
    2009 / 6th / Lacdoudal / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2008 / PU / Monkerhostin / 8/1 / P J Hobbs

    Close Brothers
    2018 / 7th / Kayf Adventure / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2016 / 14th / Killala Quay / 12/1 / C E Longsdon
    2015 / 4th / Horizontal Speed / 12/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 6th / Persian Snow / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2013 / 8th / Vulcanite / 16/1 / C E Longsdon
    2012 / 14th / Saint Are / 33/1 / Tim Vaughan
    2011 / PU / Rougham / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2010 / 1st / Copper Bleu / 11/1 / P J Hobbs
    2009 / 7th / Pancake / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2008 / 13th / Gold Medallist / 12/1 / P J Hobbs

    Cross Country (Handicap from 2008 – 2015)
    2015 / 8th / Duke Of Lucca / 5/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 1st / Balthazar King / 4/1 / P J Hobbs
    2012 / 1st / Balthazar King / 11/2 / P J Hobbs
    2010 / 14th / Monkerhostin / 11/1 / P J Hobbs

    Coral Cup
    2018 / 19th / Springtown Lake / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2016 / 22nd / Rock The Kasbah / 15/2F / P J Hobbs
    2015 / 15th / Mijhaar / 25/1 / J P Ferguson
    2014 / 14th / Clondaw Kaempfer / 14/1 / D McCain Jnr
    2013 / PU / Sadler’s Risk / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2010 / 14th / Good Old Thyme / 40/1 / Dr R D P Newland
    2008 / 11th / County Zen / 11/2F / P J Hobbs

    Fred Winter
    2018 / PU / Oxford Blu / 14/1 / Olly Murphy
    2017 / 1st / Flying Tiger / 33/1 / Nick Williams
    2016 / 13th / Pillard / 25/1 / Jonjo O’Neill
    2015 / F / Golden Doyen / 14/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 19th / Le Fin Bois / 25/1 / Tim Vaughan
    2013 / PU / Pistol / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2011 / 9th / Paintball / 15/2 / C E Longsdon
    2010 / 23rd / Diktalina / 28/1 / Mrs A M Thorpe
    2009 / 21st / Bruslini / 20/1 / P J Hobbs

    Pertemps
    2018 / 12th / Louis’ Vac Pouch / 10/1 / P J Hobbs
    2017 / 9th / For Good Measure / 10/1 / P J Hobbs
    2016 / 3rd / If In Doubt / 10/1 / P J Hobbs
    2015 / 12th / Big Easy / 11/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 1st / Fingal Bay / 9/2F / / P J Hobbs
    2013 / 14th / Fair Along / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2011 / 18th / Duke Of Lucca / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2009 / 16th / Mister Gloss / 33/1 / P J Hobbs

    Brown Advisory
    2018 / 15th / Village Vic / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2017 / 11th / Village Vic / 16/1 / P J Hobbs
    2016 / PU / Fingal Bay / 8/1 / P J Hobbs
    2015 / 19th / Filbert / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2013 / 3rd / Tartak / 20/1 / Tim Vaughan
    2010 / 3rd / From Dawn To Dusk / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2009 / PU / Oceanos des Obeaux / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2008 / 6th / Boychuk / 25/1 / P J Hobbs

    County Hurdle
    2018 / 10th / Sternrubin / 40/1 / P J Hobbs
    2017 / 9th / Wait For Me / 10/1 / P J Hobbs
    2017 / 4th / Wait For Me / 7/1F / P J Hobbs
    2016 / 8th / Cheltenian / 7/1F / P J Hobbs
    2015 / PU / Cheltenian / 5/1F / P J Hobbs
    2013 / PU / Caravel / 100/1 / Tim Vaughan
    2011 / 4th / Cockney Trucker/ 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2010 / 13th / Oldrik / 8/1 / P J Hobbs
    2009 / 3rd / Cockney Trucker/ 17/2 / P J Hobbs
    2008 / 3rd / French Saulaie / 40/1 / P J Hobbs

    Grand Annual
    2018 / 13th / Garde La Victoire / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2017 / 12th / Bold Henry / 33/1 / P J Hobbs
    2016 / F / Bold Henry / 40/1 / P J Hobbs
    2015 / 14th / Bold Henry / 25/1 / P J Hobbs
    2014 / 4th / Next Sensation / 7/1 / M Scudamore
    2011 / 10th / Keki Buku / 20/1 / P J Hobbs
    2010 / PU / Fighting Chance/ 10/1 / R Lee
    2008 / PU / Lord Henry / 25/1 / P J Hobbs

    Summary

    Total Rides: 71 (53 Philip Hobbs)
    Wins: 5 (7%)
    2nds: 0
    3rds: 5
    4ths: 4
    Losing Fav: 5
    PU: 12
    F: 2

    A £10 level stake across all his handicap runners from 2008-2018 would leave you down -£90.

    Were it not for Flying Tiger you would be down -£430

    53 rides for Philip Hobbs. Setting aside his 5 winners, 4 placed 2nd or 3rd.
    20% of his rides PU or F
    10th or worse in 60% of his rides at Cheltenham (Davy Russel is 40%)
    4 out of his 5 winners came between 2010 – 2014
    Never won the Ultima, Coral Cup, Grand Annual, County Hurdle, Brown Advisory
    Never placed top 4 in the Ultima or Coral Cup.
    Placed top 4 in the County more than any other race
    Other than winning on Fingal Bay, his record on favorites is – 22nd, 11th, PU, 8th and 4th.
    Other than winning the Fred Winter in 2017, its his race with the worse average finishing position

    It’s hard not to be underwhelmed. He did well in 2012 & 2014 with Balthazar King, and winning the Fred Winter which is historically is a race with his worst finishing position. He obviously rides mostly for Philip Hobbs in the Handicaps and generally comes in for quite a lot of support. Hobbs ridden horses between 10/1 – 12/1 (usually towards the top of the betting) have finished 13th, 14th, PU, 4th, 12th, 9th, 3rd, 12th, 1st, 9th, PU.

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