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  • #1615534
    Avatar photoPurwell
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    We are a banana monarchy; without any bananas!

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1615539
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    “Per capita” – typical Gladders, wanting to bring the great unwashed into it.

    Britain’s wealth divided by the right-wing Tories who own most of it equals a very healthy number!

    Ding ding!

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    #1615544
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    Pound sinking like a stone. Guess what that does to the price of the imports on which we rely? At a time of a cost of living crisis and inflation.

    All brought to you by the ‘party of fiscal responsibility’. What a truly awful cluster****.

    #1615545
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    “The wealth is RIGHTLY concentrated in the hands of the cleverest, the hardest working.”

    It will not be popular to say it in this parish but people who are well qualified and work hard will always have more wealth than people with fewer qualifications or those who do not work as hard. It is a fact of life.

    Equality of outcome is a pipedream that is never going to happen. I doubt many people would like it much anyway. It is not in human nature. The Conservative Party understands that more than Labour does, or is at least less hypocritical about it.

    What there should be is equality of opportunity but that does not really exist either. And who you know rather than what you know is never going to go away.

    #1615546
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    “It will not be popular to say it in this parish…”

    Probably because it’s a load of claptrap, as tons of research has shown.

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    Why is it claltrap, Glad?

    Someone who has a university degree will earn more in their life than someone with no qualifications.

    Are you seriously denying that?

    #1615549
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    Extensive research has shown that those from a wealthy background are more likely to get a degree from a good university- nothing to do with hard work or natural “talent” but everything to do with privileges of birth.

    As I said, there have been loads of studies on it; Google it if you’re interested. 👍

    Getting back to Trussonomics, this article sums up today’s fiscal event quite nicely:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/23/mini-budget-government-accused-huge-tax-cut-for-super-wealthy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    #1615551
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    I am not from a wealthy background so I suppose I buck the trend. But if I can do it…

    What are you suggesting? There should be absolute equality with everyone earning the same? Never going to happen, is it?

    I am not here to defend Mary O’Leary by the way. Her government’s budget today will be funded by massive borrowing, in effect a tax on the unborn. But politicians do not mind that because the unborn do not have a vote. They are only interested in their own careers and what it takes to win the next election.

    #1615552
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    I am not from a wealthy background either- my parents were first generation immigrants- and I grew up on a council estate. But I went to a good university, got a good job and did okay.

    But a few exceptions don’t undermine a general- and overwhelming- statistical trend.

    #1615554
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    CAS a lot of the wealth has been handed down also …to people of questionable intelligence and education , let’s be frank here , today the Tory government basically said the strategy it’s had over the last 12 years of government was wrong ….. We are now at the roulette wheel throwing everything on one number ….I’m bloody glad I’ve some money bunged away for a rainy day ……it’s about to piss down

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    “I’m bloody glad I’ve some money bunged away for a rainy day ……it’s about to piss down.”

    Very glad I have too.

    The economy has never really recovered from 2007 and the “credit crunch” with a lot of papering over the cracks since.

    #1615557
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    If you work hard you can (not will) make it, whatever your background. If you don’t work hard you’ll need to have had a good leg up in life, or have a tremendous amount of luck.

    Plenty of hardworking people are in low paying jobs. Any lazy f’ers in a good job probably required some outside assistance and/or some luck.

    #1615560
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    Build more houses ….more jobs ….make housing more affordable …it’s not difficult

    #1615561
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    Unfortunately building houses and making them more affordable is difficult. Many of the ‘immigrants’ who helped us build them have done as instructed and f’ed off elsewhere and we’ve also voluntarily erected trade barriers which makes obtaining the materials needed more time consuming and expensive. As mentioned the pound is tanking which is not helping in that regard. Prices are also increasing due to stamp duty changes fuelling demand.

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    If everyone earned the exact same amount regardless of job and were given it as a lump sum on 1st January, the (in this order) best connected, smartest and, to a lesser extent, hardest working will emerge with considerably more left on 31st December than the least well connected, stupidest and laziest.

    No argument there.

    But there reaches a point where the gap between the wealthiest and poorest – regardless of how either was arrived at – becomes obscene.

    Where that point lies (or if it even exists at all) depends on your personal politics.

    Anyway, second-generation middle class Chezza with his Desmond (rest assured little work was done, unless going racing counts as graft) in Law from Warwick university, chequered career record in and around the racing and betting industries and modest but perfectly adequate resultant life stash is, for the purposes of this thread, “On The Trusses!”

    Remember, if, by making the rich richer and the poor no better off, a few more of the poor don’t survive the winter as a result, that’s another public sector saving that hasn’t even been budgeted for!

    Ding, ding!

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    #1615569
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    I believe the last time the highest rate of income tax was abolished was in the 1980s when guess who was in charge.

    #1615599
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    1.78 Labour, 2.28 Conservatives for Most Seats Next Election – shortest Labour have been.

    Over two years to go, though, Our Liz is playing the long game!

    Ding, ding!

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