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BigG I live in Scotland ….Faslane is already there , the jobs are there , why would you want take them away , your arguments regarding moving them to someone else back door to cut unemployment ….are you reading the news , unemployment is not an issue , Faslane will have to be cleaned once closed , the government will cover these costs …again why would u move it , as for Sterling , your saying lending the pound through a Scottish bank as a last resort or going with the Euro ….has confirmation been confirmed that Scotland will get the Euro ? ….why go independent if staying in the union let’s u keep the pound
The interview is the Economy however there are 2 interviews with Neil in which she falls apart , both BBC and on YouTube , the information is out there , you just need open eyes and have time to watch……G what’s your thoughts on the ferry fiasco …the one on either it’s 2nd or 3rd inquiry ….it’s the one where the government have admitted important paperwork has gone ” missing ”
HDLG, the issue with Faslane is not about jobs, it’s about having
world destroying missiles on your doorstep. You either believe it’s
safe and you want them, or you don’t believe in retaining them here.
Personally I dont think we should have them here.Trident are old for
one thing and replacement would cost billions. Money that could be
used on infrastructure and creating jobs without having the threat
of a disaster on our hands. Are we really going to Neuk someone ?
If Wesminster wants them kept, then let the keep them outside of
Scotland. We are not a dumping ground.The explanation about the pound was given by Sturgeon as she is
constantly asked the same question. These are options. They are
feesibleIf you’re a Scot, then if the question of Independence comes up, just
vote no. If no is the majority then we remain as we are, in the Union.
I have no problem with that.As for The Ferries situation, you can try and make head or tail of it,
I can’t, it seems a bit a dog’s dinner to me.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-62839605HDLG, the main issue here is do Scotland have the right to self determination
and should we have the burden of trident on our doorstep.As Scots, you are the same as me, we have to decide what is best,
You clearly go for the status quo. I respect that.If you can give a URL of the interview you talked about I’ll
give it a look.Cheers
G if you to watch them they are there , I get the feeling you don’t , as for nukes you can’t uninvent them , you need to have or you potentially end in the current Ukraine situation …..as for the ferry fiasco , it’s not difficult , a contract was given to a company which shouldn’t have been , the taxpayer has been shafted , the ferries still haven’t been delivered and now when the inquiries have started the papers have disappeared …..Nicola seems relevant to talk about it ….strange that
You’ve made your point HDLG, some I agree with, others I don’t.
I think it’s best left there, we could end up going round in circles.Let’s just hope that Neuks are never a consideration. Despite some
differences, we both hope the best for Scotland, and the UK
Jeremy Hunt is sounding more like the PM’s father than her Chancellor.
She’s returned home from uni for Christmas having spent all her grant money and run up an overdraft and he’s now insisting on taking complete control of her finances as the price for bailing her out.
He’ll be giving humiliated Liz up for adoption within the fortnight.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’ve got no sympathy for Kwazi or Liz, but I have for the poor guy/girl who is probably
doing the Fandango with a bottle of bubbly. I’ve spent the last 2 hours explaining to
the Tote that they have made a complete cockup of the Tote Ten To Follow (flat) points.
Some poor soul thinks they have won £28,000, by the Tote’s reckoning, and they haven’t.I think Kwazi could have a pal to drown his sorrows with tonight
Imo this government has totally f****d up the economy and they have to go. Just when I think things can’t get any worse politically in this country it gets even worse. And all the time they’re quite open about their plans and people just go along with it. I don’t get it.
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“Imo this government has totally f****d up the economy and they have to go.”It is quite incredible how this kind of narrative has become entrenched into peeps’ beliefs the last few months. ‘The Blob’ seems to be dictating people’s thoughts.
The reality, of course, is not quite what people think.
Q2 2022 GDP growth is at 0.2% – not great, obs, but also defo NOT a “f****d up” economy.
Growth is similar, and in some comparisons, better than our EU neighbours.
Job vacancies are at c1.4m. Still plenty of slack in the economy.
Unemployment c 3.5%Maybe it is time to increase minimum hours peeps can work before claiming benefits; seems plenty of spare capacity to implement the policy.
Now i’m not saying things wont get worse; they will. BUT
A truly “f***ed” up economy? NOPE!!
Interest rates – Bailey & Co are approx 9 months behind the curve. A totally Inde BoE, responsible for interest rates, should’ve started the increase cycle mid-Summer 2021.
Haldane, BoE Chief Economist, May 2021 “The inflation genie is out of the bottle”.
Yep….2021. May. 17 months ago!
He was out voted re an interest rate rise.
November 2021 – Inflation reaches 5%. Yet the BoE Bank Rate maintained rates at 0.1%.
Imagine if UK govt had intervened back then, telling the BoE to increase rates – can you imagine the furore from Starmer & co?What has happened in last few weeks added fuel to an already burning fire that the BoE failed to dampen many months earlier.
‘The London-centric Blob’ are shaping the narrative and the wider electorate are being used to force change. The Blob have heavily influenced, for their own means.
All roads lead to Europe (EU).So it’s all the BOE’s fault? Gosh, what a numpty I am. So why did Kwarteng have to go?
So it’s all the BOE’s fault? Gosh, what a numpty I am. So why did Kwarteng have to go?
Caught with his fingers in the till!
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“Q2 2022 GDP growth is at 0.2% – not great, obs, but also defo NOT a “f****d up” economy.”
This has nothing to do with the present govt. The Johnson govt was still in power in Q2.
Just looking at my investment which has reduced 10% since the start of the year, which earlier in the year you could blame on the Ukraine war and fuel crisis.
Since Truss came into power it has reduced approx. 6% in a matter of weeks.
So yes although external forces have definitely not helped the economy, I think it’s safe to say that the present govt have not helped the crisis with their mini-budget plans and anyone defending this must be a blinkered Tory blue nose.
While it’s true Labour supporters and other anti-Tory activists will seek to use any event as a stick to beat the Conservatives with, there does come a point where the government is impossible credibly to defend.
“Listening government” is a now familiar bit of nonsense – if you’re competent you get it right of your own volition in the first place, no need to “listen.”
It also seems that governments should be forgiven errors which would result in everyday life in ordinary people getting a P45.
I don’t need to be a Labour voter to see this is the worst Tory government in my lifetime by a country mile.
Boris Johnson had zero integrity and even broke his own legislated laws – and Liz Truss is, quite incredibly, even worse.
Johnson’s feeble blustering under Starmer’s forensic lawyer’s PMQs interrogation looks positively articulate and self assured compared to the painful cringe of Truss at that four-question Press Conference on Friday which culminated in her dashing off with Beth Rigby calling “you’re out of your depth” as Truss exited the room.
Many say Rigby is a nasty bitch, but she’s actually no different from Andrew Neil and Jeremy Paxman in the past in going for the jugular when a politician has failed the nation – she’d have been equally tough on Jeremy Corbyn had he won in 2019.
Which leads me to the final, pathetic, defence, of myopic Tories.
“Imagine what it would have been like under Corbyn? Imagine how bad it would be under Starmer?”
While no fan of Corbyn – he was too one dimensionally left wing in the same way Truss is too one dimensionally right wing – this Tory government has been so bad since 2019 I seriously doubt if even Corbyn could have contrived a way to be even worse.
And Starmer will be different class – admittedly not hard given the Class 6 Handicapper low bar since 2019, Class 5 will do.
He’s boring, but he’s moderate and above all he’s honest.
Boring, honest, and moderate is what the majority of the country is crying out for IMO.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"‘So it’s all the BOE’s fault? Gosh, what a numpty I am.’
As I have said multiple times on this thread, it’s always somebody else’s fault with the Tories. Always. People aren’t buying it any more.
So what if we have 0.2% growth? Mortgages, inflation, pensions, cost of living. All huge worries for people so forgive them for not giving a **** about some vague rubbish about growth.
The hated Bank of England even bailed out the pension funds that were on the verge of collapse.And who is ‘the London centric Blob’ please? Last time I checked there were all sorts of media outlets, think tanks etc of various political persuasions and a large amount were based in London.
Jeremy Hunt, speaking on the Laura Kuenssberg programme, has just said that they are “caring Conservatives” and that they will “look after those who need the most support”.
We shall see.
I just watched that too.
I’m not a Laura fan, but I thought she did a good job there.
I need to envoke “still a Tory” regarding Hunt.
He savaged the NHS in his time as Health Secretary.
He’s not as right wing as Truss, but all this compassionate “One Nation” stuff is just guff regarding a Party which is essentially about the politics of SELF.
The rich and big business just lost their tax breaks, but the rest of society, apart from losing the pennies the tax cuts would have meant for them, now face mortgage payments quite possibly doubling, a higher cost of living and sub-inflation pay rises.
I’m VERY glad I no longer have a mortgage and sympathise with anyone who has one.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“The rich and big business just lost their tax breaks”
No they haven’t. They can still legally funnel pretty much everything offshore.
The financial mess was not entirely the creation of the last six weeks. In my opinion, the world has never really recovered from the financial crash of 2007/08.
A decade and a half of printing money and low, almost zero, interest rates was not going to end well. This was made worse by lockdown and then along came the Ukraine situation to accentuate the burgeoning energy crisis.
However, there is no doubt Calamity Truss has made the situation worse. A budget dreamed up without consulting Cabinet and for which she had no real mandate has been disastrous.
Beth Rigby might be full of her own importance but she is right to say Truss is out of her depth. Andrew Neil said the same thing in an article in the Daily Mail on Friday. It is painful to watch.
I wonder how much longer Truss can continue. Will the Conservative Party grandees really want her to face PMQs on Wednesday? She will be subjected to so much criticism and ridicule and – unlike Friday’s disastrous press conference – she will not be able to just walk away when it gets too difficult.
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