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It’s his attention to detail that makes him the great trainer that he is. I do think, however that, in all walks of life it’s important to think about the wider picture and be considerate towards other people. No matter how important someone is, they should always remember that. Yesterday, seemed like, what my partner informs me is called ‘professionalism’. I’m not saying that it was, it just ‘felt’ that way.
Presumably you feel the same way about Gosden?
Yes I do and countless other trainers who revert to, how shall I put it "gamesmanship" – but this particular thread was about O’Brien.
Has he done this before? No…..of course he knew the rules on this matter, its pretty standard. He obviously got delayed saddling the horses up…..he apologied to the stewards….what more do you want?
What more do I want?
What I would like is tougher penalties which act as a deterrent to
all
trainers.
And rather than making assumptions (with no basis) perhaps you should get the transcripts…..make sure you get Gosdens too at the same time.
I was not making any assumption, I was just openly wondering what his defence was.
Anyway I would suggest if I did make such an assumption there would be grounds for doing so as he has used a similar "defence" before.
Alan lee has his say
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ … 450992.ece
No no real defence for this and lets hope it doesnt happen again. Paddock watching is a big part of the experience for me and many others
Again, cannot complain about anything he has said. But a shame Gosden was not mentioned for the very same offence.
He’s not bitter is he good old Alan Lee, who every year without fail turns himself from racing journalist of the year material into Dave Yeats Part II.
He (Alan Lee) is saying the same thing as me, only he puts it much more eloquently!
I’m not trying to make too much of an excuse for John Gosden [and to be honest I haven’t seen last Fridays racing properly yet], but someone on ceefax/teletext said that Rainbow View was attempting to decapitate her groom before the race! Perhaps the paddock was not the best place for her to be, for her own sake and the other horses, not to mention innocent paddock watchers!
He (Alan Lee) is saying the same thing as me, only he puts it much more eloquently!
Unlike Alan Lee, you made your point (a valid one) without descending to insults David.
Paul Nicholls had 4 in the Gold Cup and they got in the paddock ok.
Also Martin Pipe had 10 in the 2001 National and they got in.
Paul Nicholls had 4 in the Gold Cup and they got in the paddock ok.
Also Martin Pipe had 10 in the 2001 National and they got in.
And O’Brien has had 8 in the Derby previously and they all got in ok, he has had multiple entries in many races with no delay…a once off on Saturday but serious jumping on the bandwagons here and elsewhere.
And O’Brien has had 8 in the Derby previously and they all got in ok, he has had multiple entries in many races with no delay…a once off on Saturday but serious jumping on the bandwagons here and elsewhere.
Some racing hacks are as regular as menstruating women this time of year, Aidan. Abatement usually commences ’round Glorious time.
Punsihment for trainers and jockeys are pathetic.
Little more than a slap on the wrist.
Punsihment for trainers and jockeys are pathetic.
Little more than a slap on the wrist.
The punishment wasn’t for running two year olds over 7 furlongs in May, Tom, in case you’d got confused.
From todays RP – The Dikler’s Column
“The BHA’s harsh words towards yesterdays hero Aidan O’Brien following the pre-Derby paddock scandal have come back to haunt racing’s rulers. After Epsom racegoers were left frustrated by the Ballydoyle maestro’s failure to bring his six Derby runners into the parade ring until after the bell sounded for jockeys to mount, the BHA through its stewards, fined him £840 and voiced unhappiness at his “disappointing” rule break.
But strangely there has so far been silence from the BHA over the £140 fine handed out to Jeremy Noseda following the late arrival of his subsequent Royal Hunt Cup winner Forgotten Voice.
The Dikler wonders if BHA chairman Paul Roy, who owns Forgotten Voice, found time amid the celebrations to reprimand Noseda for his misdemeanour.
The Dikler also questions whether John Gosden is in need of a new timepiece. The trainer was punished after Rainbow View was late into the paddock for the Oaks. However, the lesson was not learned as Gosden was fined £820 on Wednesday when Cadre and Wajaha both turned up late”Funny thing if you watch american racing there is none of this nonsense about time. Every horse is saddled and ready to go into the ring in the correct order.See the Breeders Cup or the Kentucky Derby ; the whole mess at Epsom is a disregard for the public. Any wonder the people quit going racing.
Funny thing if you watch american racing there is none of this nonsense about time. Every horse is saddled and ready to go into the ring in the correct order.See the Breeders Cup or the Kentucky Derby ; the whole mess at Epsom is a disregard for the public. Any wonder the people quit going racing.
Andy
For all its faults I would much rather have the racing we have over her than the souless numbers game you have in the States.
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