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Nick Luck is a top class presenter, top class interviewer, and his expansive use of the English language is to be commended.
Well worth the presenter of the year award imo.
You could always try the equivalent of:
‘My hovercraft is full of eels’
or
‘Drop you panties Sir William, I cannot wait ’til lunchtime’.
LOL! Python’s "Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook" sketch, I presume!
"I will not buy this tobacconist, it is scratched", etc.
gc
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LOL! Python’s "Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook" sketch, I presume!
Spot on.
Let me know how you get on – dropping of the panties might not be such an issue but I’m not sure how an Hungarian will react to being called Sir William!
one can understand there goings on but what else can they talk about. Mr Luck and co presenters wouldnt know there arse from there elbow and i find it hard work listening to the shite they come out with. Never has one of them ever worked in racing on the ground and got there hands dirty taken a fall schooling or riden in a races and least with Luke Harvey and
Ms Jones and Jason Weaver they have servered there time. As from watch i can recall Lucks a failed singer and Nessom is a point to point prat ( not a gd one either )Welcome GrumpyT……………..it’s not compulsory to prove your username apt with your first post.
I’m not sure that you’re right with your assertion that it is necessary to have mucked-out and ridden out in order that you may have an opinion on a horse race.
But you are entitled to your opinion.
Colin
Grumpy,
Presumably you think that the presenters of Crimewatch woud be much better qualified for the job if they had a record for armed robbery and violence ?
AP
Mr Luck and co presenters wouldnt know there [expletive] from there elbow and i find it hard work listening to the shite they come out with.
Botham and Shearer certainly had top experience and were too of the finest sportsman I have seen. Tremendous in every way
…. and I find it hard work listening to the shite they come out with
Kwai,
Whilst I would accept that first hand experience in the sport can help it wouldn’t be the be all and end all – if the greatest jockey of the last 50 years, Lester Piggot, took to the mike as a pundit I can see a large number turning off – not as a result of his lack of knowledge but due to communication issues. Probably an extreme example but I’m sure you get the gist of my point.
I also think you are being somewhat harsh in your implied criticism of Richard Hoiles – he may never have ridden in a horse race, however as well as being one of our best commentators, he is an extremely astute reader of races – he is one of the very few "experts" whose opinion I would take into account.
I think a mix of talents and backgrounds is always the ideal.
Ex-jocks or those from racing families may have the first hand experience and the insight, but may lack communication skills and are also open to the criticism aimed at many – that they are still too involved in the game and are reluctant to criticise their former colleagues.
Those from journalistic backgrounds may be more eloquent and objective, but they might also lack the ingrained knowledge that comes from day-to-day experience of the coalface.
That’s the point of having a presenting team, I suppose, so that there should be a mix of experience, opinions and talent.
And leave Nick Luck alone, he’s great.
Kwai, or Mr. Caine if you prefer, do you listen to Raio 5 at all?
The BBC, in their wisdom, have all sorts of ex-pros to do the summarising on most sports, now I can’t put my hand on my heart and say that they are all crap but some of them are excruciatingly awful.
Having played or taken part in the sport is no guarantee of expertise in commenting upon it.
An example would be to watch Eurosports coverage of the African Cup of Nations, with the ever lovable Stan Collymore, and to go back a couple of years Joe Royle was a disgrace as a commentator on on of the big soccer tournaments.
If you get no insight from such contributors as Hislop, Hoiles and Mellish then you are a very knowledgeable and lucky person.
With, of course, the greatest respect this is only my opinion.
Colin
Hi
I find it amazing that all these people who purport to be experts need someone to tell them something on a racing channel- what God only knows! Basically the presenters’ job is to fill in the time between races otherwise we would have blank screens. Nick Love is excellent at his job.Contrary to what others may think I have yet hear anything worthwhile from jockeys or ex jockeys (Carson & Lindley eg)All trainers runners are fit and well with an EW chanceI have had the racing chanels since they started, and RUK since it went on air. In my opinion RUK adds very little to my days gambling, other than allowing me to watch the live pictures in the comfort of my own home as opposed to traipsing down to the bookies in the rain.
It’s hard to tell anything to the man who knows everything!
Colin
I wouldnt go that far but what can these people tell us I recall a Sundays viewing were Mr Nessum and Luck bored us to death while a lose horses was caught.. in the process they slated the horses the jockeys of a number of runner. Now an opinion is one thing if you have the experince to back it up but dnot
run your mouth off if you dnot.. i must admit mind Richard Hoiles is excellent and when Tom O’Ryan works for RUK it is worth listening to but as for the others….Grumpyt
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to how you would fill the time while ‘a lose horses was caught'(sic). It’s not that easy to talk off the cuff for a few minutes, filling time that would otherwise have had commentary.
Some, myself included, have slagged off Derek Thompson for his style, but his ability to do a ‘piece to camera’ for a set time is second to none, and I’m damned sure he would be as good as any at filling in during an unexpected break.Rob
That’s your opinion, but that isn’t to say ex-pro’s are not preferable to professional journos or failed actors?
Not in the case of John Arlott, Hugh Mcillvanney, Patrick Barclay
And in racing…Steve Mellish and so on and so on.
Mellish or Carson?
In fact i dislike ex pros because they commentate from "the inside" and are often far too reluctant to take on "their mates". You dont have to scratch them too hard sometimes to find the comtempt with which they hold punters/fans
Alice "who cares what the punters think?" Plonker…one example that springs to mind
Now an opinion is one thing if you have the experince to back it up but dnot
run your mouth off if you dnot..Grumpy,
So the fact that you’re running your mouth about the presenters on RUK must mean you have experience of working on TV – so please let us know which channel that was and when you were working.
AP
I would prefer the pundit to be a former pro who can give us laypeople an insight we cannot get anywhere else.
All very well as a theoretical approach, Kwai, but what do you do if said pro is an inarticulate, bumbling oaf, who communicates in grunts??
The number of ex-pro’s who can get their message across in the correct manner,can be counted on the hand of a Springfield resident, without using the thumb.
Norman Williamson is one, Francome is another (though personally I think he talks sh*ite half the time), and the other one is Mick Fitzgerald as soon as he retires!!
The rest of the ex-pro’s are generally slavering, useless ars*eholes.
run your mouth off if you dnot.. i must admit mind Richard Hoiles is excellent and when Tom O’Ryan works for RUK it is worth listening to but as for the others….
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