NEW TRF ANTE POST COMPETITION 2014-2015 – NOVEMBER TIPS

[Pat123]

Apologies for the delay in posting this, not much spare time over the past few weeks. Will post an up to date leaderboard asap.

[Pat123]

Please put your ante-post bets for November (onwards) in here please.

I’ve put in bold writing the gist of any rule changes.

TRFers can put bets up for other months (not just November), they will be carried forward each month.

NEW TRF ANTE-POST BETTING COMPETITION 2014/2015

Competition starts Tuesday 10th June and ends DERBY DAY 2015

The “10 Compulsory races” are 5 Flat Classics that even most die hard Jumps fans are interested in and 5 jumps races being 4 from the Cheltenham Festival plus the Grand National, so ditto for Flat fans. The first “Compulsory race” is this month; and with many “Other races” for TRFers to choose from – there is plenty of time for more people to join in the competition.

So whether you like to bet mainly in Big Handicaps, mainly Grade 1’s, mainly Flat, mainly Jumps or a mixture – you can in this competition.

WINNING PRIZE:
None as yet but donations greatly appreciated.

STAKES:
TRFers may choose in each race whether to have:

2 points win on ONE horse
or
1 point each way on ONE horse (All each way bets to be scored to ¼ odds)
or
1 point win bets on TWO horses (You may choose to place these two bets at different times)

That way everyone is staking the same points per race.

Unless otherwise stated at time of selection – bets will be counted as 1 point win bets. This is to stop anyone putting a selection up as a 1 point bet and then claiming it as a 2 point bet after seeing the price taken shorten considerably!

You may select just one 1 point bet on a race if you wish (counting as -1 if it loses).

Anyone wishing to have two 1 point win bets on the same horse in the same race can do so. eg 1 point win bet @ 20/1 and another 1 point win bet @ 12/1 a little later.

WHEN:
Selections MUST be placed BEFORE final declarations day (ie “Ante-Post”). I realise declarations are usually only known at 11:00 am but for this competition bets MUST be in by 12:00am midnight the day before final declarations come out.

COMPULSORY RACES:
Participants MUST make a selection/s in ALL 10 Compulsory races (5 flat and 5 jumps), anyone failing to do so will be counted as losing bet/s. ie -1 point for every Compulsory race without a tip.

10 Compulsory races:
St Leger (ran)
Champion Hurdle
Champion Chase
World Hurdle
Cheltenham Gold Cup
Grand National
2000 Guineas
1000 Guineas
Oaks
Derby

EXTRA BETS:
Participants are given ONE EXTRA FREE 2 points win bet and ONE EXTRA FREE 1 point each way bet to be used on any of the 10 Compulsory races; but the EXTRA bets are NOT to be used together on the SAME race. These Extra Bets are optional but are free so might as well be used.

OTHER RACES:
In addition, participants MUST make selection/s in AT LEAST 10 “Other races”. Again, anyone not selecting horse/s for at least 10 of these races will be treated as losing bets. eg If only selecting in 7 “Other races” you will lose an 3 points (10 – 8 = 2) from your over all +/- Score (-1 point per race without a tip).

NUMBER OF BETS/POINTS ALLOWED:
There is a maximum of 80* points (including Compulsories) per TRFer. So eg. Anyone selecting 2 points for every race would have a maximum of 40 races to tip in (10 Compulsories and 30 Others). It can be more than 40 races if only 1 point is used for some/all races. If any TRFer selects more than 80* points only the first 80 will count towards your total score.

Participants have a total of between 20 and 80* points to stake. eg If a TRFer only had 1 point per race on all 10 “Compulsory Races” and 10 “Other Races” he/she’d be staking just 20 points in all. If staking 2 points in all of those it would be 40 points (20 x 2). You can choose in every individual race whether to use 1 or 2 points. (* = + extra free tips)

NON RUNNERS:
Any non-runner is counted as a losing bet and goes towards your total. Any ante-post tip struck in a race postponed to a later date will be carried forward to the new time… Unless the new race distance or venue change (voided). Any horse ballotted out will have stakes returned (to use again).

If the non-runner is a 1 point win bet you still have another 1 point win bet to play with anyway.

If the non-runner is a 2 point win bet or 1 point each way bet lost – then you may bet again. However, if choosing to do so the non-runner losing tips as well as the new bets will go towards your total.

If the non-runner is in one of the 10 Compulsory Races then any further bet will be subtracted from the number of bets possible in the Other Races section.

If having another bet when thinking your original bet is a non-runner and then the original bet ends up running – then ONLY the original bets will count. ie Only the first 2 points stated are allowed to run in any race (+ Extra Free bets).

BOOKMAKERS:
Bets must be quoted from one of 13 Bookmakers quoted on ODDSCHECKER on the left of the screen.
Bet 365, Skybet, Totesport, Boylesports, Betfred, Sportingbet, BetVictor, Paddy Power, Stan James, 888sport, Ladbrokes, Corals, William Hills.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing … acing/flat

No bets on betting exchanges or obscure bookmakers.
Sorry, ringing up for a price and saying “I got this price” will not be allowed, as they can not be checked. Prices MUST be quoted from the oddschecker site.

SCORING: Pat is going to do the scoring, but it would help if everyone kept their own scores. We’re going to have a seperate thread every month and then the leaderboard produced for that particular month. It would help us all to keep tabs on the AP races we have bet in and may encourage new players at the beginning of every new month.

EDITING:
Strictly NO EDITING, even if it is to change your total. If you’ve made a mistake in writing just “quote” it and say why you want it changed.

REMINDER:
Players need to select for all 10 Compulsory Races AND at least 10 Other races.

TIE BREAK:
In the event of a tie at the end of the competition the one with the biggest priced winner wins. If it’s the same – the one with the second biggest price wins. If same – the third… etc.

Please put your ante-post bets for November (onwards) in here please.

[RedRum77]

[b:2aoh3jvh]RECORD OF PAST BETS MADE[/color:2aoh3jvh][/b:2aoh3jvh][/size:2aoh3jvh]

BET 1 QUEEN ANNE STAKES
1 POINT WIN VERRAZNO
PRICE TAKEN 7/2, ACTUAL PRICE 6/1
RESULT LOST

BET 2 KING STAND STAKES
1 POINT WIN SHEA SHEA
PRICE TAKEN 5/1, ACTUAL PRICE 9/2
RESULT LOST

BET 3 ST JAMES PALACE STAKES
1 POINT WIN WAR COMMAND
PRICE TAKEN 11/1, ACTUAL PRICE 9/1
RESULT LOST

BET 4 COVENTRY STAKES
1 POINT WIN WOW SIGNAL
PRICE TAKEN 10/1, ACTUAL PRICE 5/1
RESULT WON

BET 5 PRIX DE L’ARC DE TRIOMPHE
1 POINT WIN SEA THE MOON
PRICE TAKEN 25/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

BET 6 EBOR HANDICAP
1 POINT WIN CLEVER COOKIE
PRICE TAKEN 10/1, ACTUAL PRICE 10/1
RESULT LOST

BET 7 BUNBURY CUP HANDICAP
1 POINT WIN AYAAR
PRICE TAKEN 10/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

BET 8 JULY CUP
1 POINT WIN NOOZHOH CANARAIS
PRICE TAKEN 6/1, ACTUAL PRICE 9/2
RESULT LOST

BET 9 KING GEORGE VI AND QUEEN ELIZABETH STAKES
1 POINT WIN IVANHOWE
PRICE TAKEN 33/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

BET 10 KING GEORGE VI AND QUEEN ELIZABETH STAKES
1 POINT WIN LEADING LIGHT
PRICE TAKEN 20/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

BET 11 32 RED STEWARDS CUP HANDICAP
1 POINT WIN SEEKING MAGIC
PRICE TAKEN 25/1, ACTUAL PRICE 16/1
RESULT LOST

BET 12 32 RED STEWARDS CUP HANDICAP
1 POINT WIN SIR MAXILLIAN
PRICE TAKEN 33/1, ACTUAL PRICE 25/1
RESULT LOST

BET 13 CAMBRIDGESHIRE
1 POINT WIN ZARWAAN
PRICE TAKEN 20/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

BET 14 CAMBRIDGESHIRE
1 POINT WIN NICEOFYOUTOTELLME
PRICE TAKEN 25/1, ACTUAL PRICE 10/1
RESULT LOST

BET 15 PRIX DE L’ARC DE TRIOMPHE
1 POINT WIN JUST A WAY
PRICE TAKEN 10/1, ACTUAL PRICE 7/1
RESULT LOST

BET 16 CESAREWITCH
1 POINT WIN MOIDORE
PRICE TAKEN 25/1, ACTUAL PRICE 16/1
RESULT

BET 17 CESAREWITCH
1 POINT WIN NEARLY CAUGHT
PRICE TAKEN 20/1, ACTUAL PRICE 20/1

COMPULSORY BET 1 ST LEGER
1 POINT WIN GRANDDUKEOFTUSCANY
PRICE TAKEN 14/1, ACTUAL PRICE 20/1
RESULT LOST

COMPULSORY BET 2 ST LEGER
1 POINT WIN STREETCAR TO STARS
PRICE TAKEN 25/1, ACTUAL PRICE N/A
RESULT LOST

RESULT 17 BETS USED IN ADDITIONAL RACES, NON PENDING, 1 WIN AT 10/1, PLUS 2 LOSING BETS IN THE COMPULSORY SECTION LEAVES ME AT THE MOMENT AT -8 POINTS.

[RedRum77]

NOW FOR SOME NEW ONES; FIRST THOUGH I MUST SAY THE SEEMS A LACK OF ANTE POST PRICES AVAILABLE FROM THE BOOKMAKERS THIS FLAT SEASON. LET’S HOPE FOR BETTER IN THE NATIONAL HUNT.

BET 18 AMLIN 1965 CHASE
1 POINT WIN RAJDHANI EXPRESS
5/1 SKYBET, BETVICTOR

BET 19 BETFAIR CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY THE GIANT BOLSTER
33/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 20 BETFAIR FIXED BRUSH HURDLE
2 POINT WIN VIEUX LION ROUGE
10/1 WILLIAM HILL

BET 21 HENNESSY GOLD CUP
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
25/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER) BET 365

BET 22 WELSH GRAND NATIONAL
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
16/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 23 LEXUS CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY ON HIS OWN
12/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS ) PADDY POWER

BET 24 SUPREME NOVICE HURDLES
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
12/1 SKYBET, CORALS

BET 25 SUPREME NOVICE HUDLES
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 CORALS

BET 26 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
10/1 BETFRED

BET 27 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 28 RYANAIR
1 POINT EACH WAY
RAJDHANI EXPRESS (3 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS)

BET 29 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
14/1 BETVICTOR, STAN JAMES

BET 30 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN KILLULTAGH VIC
25/1 WILLIAM HILL

19 BETS USED UP HERE.

[Triptych]

KING GEORGE V1 CHASE – 26th December 2014

SILVINIACO CONTI

at

8/1

BetFred

2 points win

Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...

[Triptych]

NOW FOR SOME NEW ONES; FIRST THOUGH I MUST SAY THE SEEMS A LACK OF ANTE POST PRICES AVAILABLE FROM THE BOOKMAKERS THIS FLAT SEASON. LET’S HOPE FOR BETTER IN THE NATIONAL HUNT.

BET 18 AMLIN 1965 CHASE
1 POINT WIN RAJDHANI EXPRESS
5/1 SKYBET, BETVICTOR

BET 19 BETFAIR CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY THE GIANT BOLSTER
33/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 20 BETFAIR FIXED BRUSH HURDLE
2 POINT WIN VIEUX LION ROUGE
10/1 WILLIAM HILL

BET 21 HENNESSY GOLD CUP
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
25/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER) BET 365

BET 22 WELSH GRAND NATIONAL
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
16/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 23 LEXUS CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY ON HIS OWN
12/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS ) PADDY POWER

BET 24 SUPREME NOVICE HURDLES
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
12/1 SKYBET, CORALS

BET 25 SUPREME NOVICE HUDLES
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 CORALS

BET 26 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
10/1 BETFRED

BET 27 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 GENERALLY AVAILABLE

1 POINT EACH WAY
RAJDHANI EXPRESS (3 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS)

BET 29 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
14/1 BETVICTOR, STAN JAMES

BET 30 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN KILLULTAGH VIC
25/1 WILLIAM HILL

19 BETS USED UP HERE.

You forgot your price for Rajdhani Express EW in the
RYANAIR Red Rum
Best get it in quick before it tumbles
Jac

Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...

[RedRum77]

Thanks, Jac!

I forget my head if it weren’t screwed on

Rajdhani Express is a 20/1 for the Ryanair at this moment in time and that’s generally available.

[Triptych]

KING GEORGE V1 CHASE – 26th December 2014

SILVINIACO CONTI

at

8/1

BetFred

2 points win

I think my score (not including above)
is

will look out for Pat’s next update to confirm.
Jac

Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...

[Pat123]

KING GEORGE V1 CHASE – 26th December 2014

SILVINIACO CONTI

at

8/1

BetFred

2 points win

I think my score (not including above)
is

will look out for Pat’s next update to confirm.
Jac

Agreed with your score Jac

[Pat123]

Hennessy Gold Cup
The Druids Nephew (1pt ew @ 16-1 Bet365)
4 places

King George Chase
Champagne Fever (2pts win @ 7-1 Corals)

Welsh National
Rigadin De Beauchene (1pt ew @ 25-1 Ladbrokes)
4 places

RSA Chase
Champagne West (2pts win @ 20-1 BetVictor)

World Hurdle
At Fishers Cross (1pt ew @ 16-1 BetVictor)
3 places

Cheltenham Gold Cup
Smad Place (1pt ew @ 20-1 BetVictor)
3 places

[wyldesyde]

Hennessy Gold Cup

What A Warrior

(25/1 BetVictor)….1pt EW

[RedRum77]

NOW FOR SOME NEW ONES; FIRST THOUGH I MUST SAY THE SEEMS A LACK OF ANTE POST PRICES AVAILABLE FROM THE BOOKMAKERS THIS FLAT SEASON. LET’S HOPE FOR BETTER IN THE NATIONAL HUNT.

BET 18 AMLIN 1965 CHASE
1 POINT WIN RAJDHANI EXPRESS
5/1 SKYBET, BETVICTOR

BET 19 BETFAIR CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY THE GIANT BOLSTER
33/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 20 BETFAIR FIXED BRUSH HURDLE
2 POINT WIN VIEUX LION ROUGE
10/1 WILLIAM HILL

BET 21 HENNESSY GOLD CUP
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
25/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER) BET 365

BET 22 WELSH GRAND NATIONAL
1 POINT EACH WAY MERRY KING
16/1 (4 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS) GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 23 LEXUS CHASE
1 POINT EACH WAY ON HIS OWN
12/1 (3 PLACES, FIFTH ODDS ) PADDY POWER

BET 24 SUPREME NOVICE HURDLES
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
12/1 SKYBET, CORALS

BET 25 SUPREME NOVICE HUDLES
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 CORALS

BET 26 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
10/1 BETFRED

BET 27 NEPTUNE NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SILVER CONCORDE
16/1 GENERALLY AVAILABLE

BET 28 RYANAIR
1 POINT EACH WAY
RAJDHANI EXPRESS (3 PLACES, QUARTER ODDS)

BET 29 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN SHANESHILL
14/1 BETVICTOR, STAN JAMES

BET 30 ALBERT BARLETT NOVICE HURDLE
1 POINT WIN KILLULTAGH VIC
25/1 WILLIAM HILL

19 BETS USED UP HERE.

Merry King finished 3rd in Henessy winning me 7.25 points (5.25 profit)

[wyldesyde]

Becher Chase

Balbriggan

(10/1 PP) and

Shakalakaboomboom

(25/1 Betfred)….1pt win on each

[Pat123]

Tingle Creek
Williams Wishes 1pt ew (25-1 Ladbrokes)

Becher Chase
Across The Bay 1pt ew (25-1 Hills)

[Triptych]

bumped this Thread up Pat as lots of Cheltenham AP selections on here.
Jac
:)

Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...

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