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I know punters looking for a better and more consistent ROI are not to fussed on multiple bets but for betting as a hobby like me once a week with the chance of a big score I’m interested in them,
I understand bookmakers make a killing from them but I would like to know your stories of close calls or big hits in the past from lucky15,31,63 Heinz and the alike, I cannot seem to find much from searching.
Sam
Best avoided, difficult enough to find one winner these days.
I await something to be done about non-triers before I wager a penny on any horse.Best avoided, difficult enough to find one winner these days.
I await something to be done about non-triers before I wager a penny on any horse.Here we go again.
Where is Eddie Ahern these days Woolfie?
Something is/has being/been done.
But why not blame someone else for your own inadequacies.
Value Is EverythingI know punters looking for a better and more consistent ROI are not to fussed on multiple bets but for betting as a hobby like me once a week with the chance of a big score I’m interested in them,
I understand bookmakers make a killing from them but I would like to know your stories of close calls or big hits in the past from lucky15,31,63 Heinz and the alike, I cannot seem to find much from searching.
SamMiracle bets are definitely not for me Sam. Placepot is ok. Only done the Placepot 5 or 6 times in almost 30 years of gambling, with family and freinds. First time got it twice with (if memory serves) 9 lines! Trouble is all favourites were placed so actually managed to make a loss on the bet! Did win it with a couple of racing pals at Salisbury once. Paid over £300 so I guess you could say I’ve made a profit with Placepots.
It’s a popular bet with my mates on course with frequent success. Only this week those same racing pals came a short head away from winning Wednesday’s Salisbury Placepot and another pal won Thursday’s. He also had a Glorious Goodwood Placepot this month.
Value Is EverythingBest avoided, difficult enough to find one winner these days.
I await something to be done about non-triers before I wager a penny on any horse.Here we go again.
Where is Eddie Ahern these days Woolfie?
Something is/has being/been done.
But why not blame someone else for your own inadequacies.I welcome progress in this but I would be surprised if the Ahern case in itself will deter all cheats.
One of the best small stake bets I can remember, was told to me by a friend who’s father was a bookmaker.
He told me that his father used to like a bet on the 8 race card at Hackney dogs backing traps 1 & 3 in reverse forecast doubles.
His bet was 112 x 1 pence reverse forecast doubles total £1.12 pence, this is cheap fun bet and if you managed to hit 4 forecasts it will be profitable.
How you would work out what the cost would be for a 10 or 12 race dog card, I would have to leave that to somebody else.
Sam
The main problem with multiple bets such as Yankees & Canadians is that they force you to have the same stake on each part of the bet in order to take advantage of often spurious bookmakers’ bonuses.
For example, if I was backing five selections, I would rather stake a £1 Canadian (£26) thus:
10 x £2 doubles
10 x 50p trebles
No fourfolds
1 x £1 fivefoldBasically, the most likely successful event (a double) is heavily covered as is the once-in-a-lifetime fivefold.
I should say the only multiple bet I ever actually place is a £1 ‘just in case!’ accumulator on all my bets for the day which are all backed in singles.
Mike
Not horses, but when I worked in betting shops in the 70s, a guy had a 50p accumulator on 17 teams – 16 won – painful!
The last accumulator I had up was for £1 on four horses, one of which was The Laird. The Laird won the Massey-Ferguson in 1966, so you know how long ago my winning bet was! It returned £65. I bought my girlfriend (of about 6 weeks) an engagement ring (I always was impulsive), we fell out a month later and I pawned the ring to go to Lanark races – Le Garcon D’or won that day – and I came home skint.
Happy days!
The most sobering thing to consider when having a Yankee, is that when one selection goes under, it takes 7 bets with it.
Joe
Just to keep things current on close calls…
£5 TRIXIE
Lucky Kristale
The Fugue
Say
A diminishing neck away from over £540 profit.
Still, £45 profit better than a kick in the nuts.
Thanks for the comments
if I had done a £1 lucky 15 on Friday it would have been £880 for 3 winnershave you tried an ALPHA BET?
i know coral do ityou bet on 6 horses
A horse
B horse
C horse
D horse
E horse
F horse7 bets A,B,C
3 singles, 3 doubles, 1 treble7 bets D,E,F
3 singles, 3 doubles, 1 treble11 bets B,C,D,E
6 doubles, 4 trebles, 1 fourfold1 bet A,B,C,D,E,F
26 win bets, 52 ew bets
if you all winners you get the accumulator big win
it costs less that heinz 57 bets win, 108 ew bets
if you get SAY horses B and C win you get 2 singles, and 2 doublesit wont pay as much as a heinz if you get a lot of winners but how often does that happen?
but i have found that it costs less to bet on, if you only get a few winners you get more of your money back, and it covers if you have all six winners.
im like to bet e/w and look for 8-12 runner races where i feel the favourite is not as strong as the market suggests, where a top jockey is on the 2nd or 3rd fav and worth i feel the e/w risk,
i’m in no way a winning punter, but i feel this bet reduces the risk, and with only a couple of winners reduces any potential loss, with the chance of that big payout
let me know what you think
i also do a placepot and once won £19,000 over 20 years ago on one using a perm 2 x 2 x 2 x x 2 x 3 x 3 = 144 x 30p
i ended up getting 4 x 30p lines up winning £19.344
ive had a few wins =since but not huge ones
i know the tote take 29% out of the pool butn i still feel its a good bet.
in races of 2-4 runners i put all runners in my sellection
in 5 and 6 runner races i put 2nd fav and 4th priced horse as selections
in 7 runner races i put 3rd, 5th and 6th priced horse as selections
(i have found in smaller fields the race isn’t run at a true pace with a lot of tactical racing going on, and often the favourite won’t get placed boosting the placepot pool)
in 8-12 runner races i put 3rd and 4th priced horse as selections
(here i have found especially in races late in the day that favourites often don’t get placed but a 3rd or 4th priced horse will get … boosting placepot)in races over 12 runners depends on distance over 3 miles i just put in fav and 2nd fav as i have found the longer the distance the more likely the favourite will get palced)
in races under 2 miles i put in 2nd and 3rd priced horse hoping fav won’t get placed … boosting palcepot)
handicaps over 15 runners i often come stuck in so i put in 3-4 horses and hope ive picked right.
i have found shock results have tended to happen later in the day, not always, but if you check results how oftens have you noticed the shock results happening in the later races?
also shock rersults happening in the smaller fields?
i use perms, sometimes large perms of 200-400 bets especially in the big meeting, at 5p and 10p units
i also do a placepot and once won £19,000 over 20 years ago on one using a perm 2 x 2 x 2 x x 2 x 3 x 3 = 144 x 30p
i ended up getting 4 x 30p lines up winning £19.344
ive had a few wins =since but not huge ones
So you laid out £43.20 on that placepot, quite a lot of money over 20 years ago. If you were doing that on a regular basis you would need a good ‘un like that now and then. Well done.
i also do a placepot and once won £19,000 over 20 years ago on one using a perm 2 x 2 x 2 x x 2 x 3 x 3 = 144 x 30p
i ended up getting 4 x 30p lines up winning £19.344
ive had a few wins =since but not huge ones
i know the tote take 29% out of the pool butn i still feel its a good bet.
in races of 2-4 runners i put all runners in my sellection
in 5 and 6 runner races i put 2nd fav and 4th priced horse as selections
in 7 runner races i put 3rd, 5th and 6th priced horse as selections
(i have found in smaller fields the race isn’t run at a true pace with a lot of tactical racing going on, and often the favourite won’t get placed boosting the placepot pool)
in 8-12 runner races i put 3rd and 4th priced horse as selections
(here i have found especially in races late in the day that favourites often don’t get placed but a 3rd or 4th priced horse will get … boosting placepot)in races over 12 runners depends on distance over 3 miles i just put in fav and 2nd fav as i have found the longer the distance the more likely the favourite will get palced)
in races under 2 miles i put in 2nd and 3rd priced horse hoping fav won’t get placed … boosting palcepot)
handicaps over 15 runners i often come stuck in so i put in 3-4 horses and hope ive picked right.
i have found shock results have tended to happen later in the day, not always, but if you check results how oftens have you noticed the shock results happening in the later races?
also shock rersults happening in the smaller fields?
i use perms, sometimes large perms of 200-400 bets especially in the big meeting, at 5p and 10p units
Placepots can be fantastic value, but look for a few dodgy favourites. Personally I like doing one at any Cheltenham meeting, when a couple of favourites (in my opinion) will be unplaced.
Also if I have the funds for a bet, usually done at 10 or 5 pence units because I have a few hundred bets.
Fantastic placepot (above) if it was truly achieved.
I’m going to stick up for the multiples. Yes, you can say mug punter blah blah, but how is your
everyday
punter going to win big? Either by doing an accumulator or multiple…£10,000 at 4/1 is not exactly in their remit.
I enjoy doing unlucky 15’s/31’s and 63’s if I’m feeling flush.
You get decent bonuses if they come up, and Corals do 3 x the odds one winner on all unlucky’s – which is not bad if you can pick one decent price winner.
Surely I’m not the only one on here to get annoyed when I’ve backed a few decent winners on the same day and then pondered bitingly "why didn’t I do them in a goddamn unLucky!!"
Zip
i also do a placepot and once won £19,000 over 20 years ago on one using a perm 2 x 2 x 2 x x 2 x 3 x 3 = 144 x 30p
i ended up getting 4 x 30p lines up winning £19.344
ive had a few wins =since but not huge ones
So you laid out £43.20 on that placepot, quite a lot of money over 20 years ago. If you were doing that on a regular basis you would need a good ‘un like that now and then. Well done.
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