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    Tom
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    I see Sally Hall has a runner at redcar this afternoon, Bold haze a 7-y-old owned by herself.

    What age will she be now?

    How many horses does she have in training at the moment?

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    marko
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    I believe she has four horses in training:

    Bold Haze, Candleford, Magic Haze and Markadam.

    I am not sure it is polite to mention someones age, but I think it is fairly common knowledge that she qualifies for a bus pass should she so choose.

    #226908
    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Only ever backed one of her horses. It was called opal something or other and did the biz at something like 50’s.
    "Good young Sally" I said at the time.

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    Tom
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    For goodness sake – not polite to mention someone’s age this is 2009.

    Only four horses in training?

    Surely a flat licence should be revoked if a trainer has so few horses in his/her stables.

    OK, an owner may take all of his horses away at the one time but surely if a trainer goes for say 30-months with under ten animals in traning then their flat licence should be taken away.

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    seabird
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    Why?

    Colin

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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Tom, it might be 2009 but some of us still prefer to defer to ageless standards of manners toward fair and genteel maidens of the opposite sex.
    It distinguishes the gentlemen from the, dare I suggest, the less noble ruffians that abound these forums.
    K

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    davidbrady
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    For goodness sake – not polite to mention someone’s age this is 2009.

    Only four horses in training?

    Surely a flat licence should be revoked if a trainer has so few horses in his/her stables.

    OK, an owner may take all of his horses away at the one time but surely if a trainer goes for say 30-months with under ten animals in traning then their flat licence should be taken away.

    Where is the logic in this?

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    I don’t think there is any logic to it DB.

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    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    Only four in training?

    Surely a flat licence should be revoked if a trainer has so few horses in his/her stables.

    OK, an owner may take all of his horses away at the one time but surely if a trainer goes for say 30-months with under ten animals in traning then their flat licence should be taken away.

    I trust you’re not atttempting to equate a smallness of training operation with a propensity to be no good at the job?

    Exhibit A, m’lud. Bob Jones had more than 10 horses represent him in a given year only once between 1991 and 2008 (and it was fewer than five for many of the more recent years), yet still landed nice prizes with the likes of Unshakable and Cold Climate, including Newmarket handicaps off up to 90.

    It’s not like he was turning out two or three complete yaks week in, week out and nothing else, so I’m not sure how racing would have been any better served by him having his license revoked in accordance with your criterion.

    gc

    Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Tom asked: …..Bold haze a 7-y-old owned by herself.

    What age will she be now?

    By my reckoning Tom, she’ll be 7 years and 131 days, if you take the standard January 1st as every racehorses’ birthday.

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    Is now the right time to mention that Chip Wooley just won the Derby with his one horse stable?

    #226944
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    Yeah right Ken :lol: Sally Hall old Mum would be well over a hundred now if she were alive. She died in the very late 90’s maybe 98/99 just before I left the Uk and she was in her 90’s.

    As most women have their kids in their 20’s that say 100+ less 20+ she’d be about 70 years old.

    She’s been training herself for 40 years soshecould be a bit younger but must be over 65 years old

    In short don’t know but she’s between 60 and 70 years old.

    I suggest you ask Colin or "H" as they went to school with her. Colin was the headmaster and "H" was the janitor :lol:

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    If I was an owner I’d be more worried about a trainer that has so many horses in training that he probably doesn’t know who I am or which horse is mine, and probably only sees it for a few seconds a day. If I come back as a horse Miss Sally Hall’s establishment is where I want to be!

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    When I was getting into the sport in 1986 there was a a Sally Hall trained high class horse called Hallgate that I believe ran in Dancing Brave’s guineas though it was a sprinter, may have been Terry Ramsden owned as well is this the same Sally Hall.

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Tom, it might be 2009 but some of us still prefer to defer to ageless standards of manners toward fair and genteel maidens of the opposite sex.
    It distinguishes the gentlemen from the, dare I suggest, the less noble ruffians that abound these forums.
    K

    Yes and we all know which category MARBLE falls into, trying to seduce
    Kirsty Kauto Star before our very eyes!!

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    When I was getting into the sport in 1986 there was a a Sally Hall trained high class horse called Hallgate that I believe ran in Dancing Brave’s guineas though it was a sprinter, may have been Terry Ramsden owned as well is this the same Sally Hall.

    Same horse and trainer Spitfire, but i dont think Terry Ramsden owned it,
    Greville starkey was successful on Hallgate in some good sprints at Ascot and Newmarket, although he didn"t ride it in the 86, 2000 gns!!

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    Anonymous
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    When I was getting into the sport in 1986 there was a a Sally Hall trained high class horse called Hallgate that I believe ran in Dancing Brave’s guineas though it was a sprinter, may have been Terry Ramsden owned as well is this the same Sally Hall.

    Only is one Sally :wink: She’s the neice of the great Sam Hall. His daughter Kate (Walton) is also a trainer.

    It was some company with a circus sounding name who owned Hallgate but Ramsden was buying so many horses back then he may well have bought him.

    Hallgate was definately a sprinter and a very high class one. I vaguuely remember him pissin up in France but it’s such along time ago all the records will be gone.

    Ask Rory he’ll tell you the last time the horse went to the toilet

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