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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Sunday 1st March

    2.30 Musselburgh –

    Caravel

    1st @4/9 (10 ran) tote win £1.50 place £1.02

    total wins 2/5, 40%

    total place 3/5, 60%

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

    #213167
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    Nathan

    total place 3/5, 60%

    The place dividend on these wouldn’t buy a bag of sweets, let alone get one of the losing stakes back.
    Imagine what lumping £300 in the pool (as advised by the chancer who put this system up) would do to these returns, particularly as the total place pool is often only around the 1k mark in small field races with a short-priced fav?

    #213291
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Monday 2nd March

    No selection

    Tuesday 3rd March

    2.20 Newcastle –

    Steady Tiger

    3rd @8/13 (9ran) tote place £1.02

    total wins 2/6
    total place 4/6

    reet hard I agree fully with you on the place dividend, Eddie boasted that the system had a 90% place strike rate but with the odds of the horse’s that have fitted the selections there’s no way I’d imagine you would get rich backing this system, same with the win bets 60% would return a loss if they all started odds on.

    How long do you think I should continue to keep tabs on the results or is it fair to say this system is a bit of a flop?

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

    #213362
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    Nathan

    Don’t let me deter you, though my own mind was made up about Eddie and his knowledge at an early stage in his postings.

    #213365
    dave jay
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    Nathan, if the system is that bad you could always lay all of the selections for a huge profit.

    #213376
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I was open minded to the system and had read of something similar on teletext back along about the mirror system so I was interested in seeing the results but after six odds on selections and penny placepot dividends it’s not something I’d follow with cash. Perhaps the strike rates will improve over a longer period of time but like David Brady predicted earlier in the thread I think it will continue to be very short prices.

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

    #213462
    goodlife
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    Reet Hard wrote

    Don’t let me deter you, though my own mind was made up about Eddie and his knowledge at an early stage in his postings.

    Agreed but he could be very entertaining.

    #222753
    mulls74
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    I remember using a Mirror system when I was in school – the Steve Cauthen era. It was simply: Non-handicaps only – back the betting forecast favourite if it was SF and the spothorse.

    Has lots of winners, not enough to make a profit because of the short prices but it had streaks that came in very handy for a 14-year-old’s 10p round the clock bets!

    Mind you, a lot of selections were placed so there may be some scope for place-only betting.

    For old time’s sake, today’s qualifiers are:
    FLAT
    Desperate Dan, 3.50 Wolver
    Standpoint, 4.10 Ponte
    Souter Point, 7.20 Windsor
    JUMPS
    Touch Of Irish, 3.00 Hex
    Or Bleu, 5.30 Kemp

    Another system from my school days was to back any horse that was top on the Daily Mirror ratings and the Daily Star ratings, again in non-handicaps. It was later tweaked to be the top-rated on Raceform Speed Figures and the top-rated on Raceform Ratings. But they have gone now so maybe the Mirror/Star combination could be tried again.

    Again, for old’s time sake using the Mirror and Star:
    FLAT
    Lilly Blue, 2.40 Ponte – edited, this race is a handicap, sorry!
    Standpoint, 4.10 Ponte
    Welsh Anthem, 6.50 Windsor
    JUMPS
    Touch Of Irish, 3.00 Hexham
    Or Bleu, 5.30 Kemp

    #237278
    mr forecast
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    27.2.09

    2.55 Fakenham –

    Forty Five

    1st @2/7 (7 ran) tote win £1.30, place £1.10

    total wins 1/2 50%

    total place 2/2 100%

    If anyone wants to work out the running profits/losses feel free to do so.

    i thought they were to be placed only….

    #237282
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Welcome to the forum Mr Forecast.

    I wasn’t sure whether the system was place only or not as the original mirror thread was deleted.

    Feel free to continue the thread, place only if you like.

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

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