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Master Minded and Ruby… The Debate Starts Here…

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    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    So for all those who were slating McCoy less than an hour or so ago, what do you make of the jump of the last? ? ?

    Also, how does it differ from the mistake of Denman, apart from the obvious, it un-seated McCoy.

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    clivexx
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    What i make of it is that ruby is proven on MM and Mccoy isnt on Denman

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    Avatar photocormack15
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    Ruby’s come clean – his fault!

    #276195
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    What i make of it is that ruby is proven on MM and Mccoy isnt on Denman

    Ruby has ridden Master Minded many a time, yet still made a mistake today.

    McCoy rides Denman for the first time and gets taken to the cleaners.

    #276196
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    This is a childish topic. No jockey is going to go through a career without a bad jump. :roll:

    Amazing that Ruby stayed on!

    #276200
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    This is a childish topic. No jockey is going to go through a career without a bad jump. :roll:

    Amazing that Ruby stayed on!

    No Ian, it is a thread to distinguish how exactly people can slate McCoy for what happened with Denman earlier, when he was riding him for the first time, yet Ruby has ridden Master Minded many a time, yet is a hero for staying on when he makes a mistake.

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    Avatar photoRock On Ruby
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    Good round of jumping from Master Minded apart from the last, I think he is a cert now for the Champion Chase. Thought he was still before the race now i’m even more sure he will win it come march.

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    totally different mistakes, MM put in one too many strides approaching the jump. and ap just didnt ask enough,.

    #276225
    sovies friend
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    RUBY SAID SORRY MY FAULT !! ALL I CAN SAY IS BL**DY WELL SAT MR WALSH !!!

    #276415
    Roseblossom
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    Ruby’s come clean – his fault!

    Which puts him head and shoulders over AP in this case.

    On Ch4 before the Aon there was a bit of chat about how McCoy was riding shorter than Walsh, and how a longer leg could help a jock stay on.. which of course was promptly illustrated!

    #276419
    Aragorn
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    Gaz, i don’t know why but whenever you start a thread I get SQL errors and all sorts of weird stuff happening on my screen!!

    I was going to start a different thread but thought i’ll just add my thoughts here and post the question I was going to ask:

    How long do you think Master Minded was carrying that rib injury? He looked back to his best exceptional best today..

    #276431
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    Ruby stayed aboard. :D :D :D :D

    Thats the difference and admitted it was his fault. McCoy should have said i made a mistake asking for a big jump at the 3rd last when the horse was not willing

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    I’ve been wondering about the injury as well. I don’t remember hearing of a horse with a fractured rib before; I mean, I assume they’d have to do something quite noticeable to sustain such an injury. Could he have been kicked by another horse in the summer when out in the paddock?

    #276436
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    Maybe he just bruised it and it affected him. Like Horses are very fragile. Lieing down in his box he could have down something as easy as being kicked on the gallops.

    Paul Nicholls is a incredible trainer for injury recoveries i will admit. It surreal that he has kept Kauto and Denman still going despite their problems from time to time

    #276439
    Roseblossom
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    I’ve been wondering about the injury as well. I don’t remember hearing of a horse with a fractured rib before; I mean, I assume they’d have to do something quite noticeable to sustain such an injury. Could he have been kicked by another horse in the summer when out in the paddock?

    I spoke to someone with vet connections and they were quite surprised. Not just because he’d fractured a rib, but because the rib he broke was an odd one – one of the "floating" ones, rather than right under the saddle. It’s not one you’d expect to injure in everyday work.

    Think it’s been mooted that the culprit is likely to have been Kauto or Denman, as he was turned out with them both during the summer!

    #276449
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Ruby’s come clean – his fault!

    Yeh thats Ruby! even though it wasn"t his fault! The horse quite clearly puts down on him! Clever thinking by Ruby diffusing the "Doubters" 1001 questions! AP put your hands up and tell us you were on a beaten horse when he fell!

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    RedRiot
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    I bet Sam Thomas would of gotten farther greater stick if it was him.

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